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I have to say, it is incredibly frustrating seeing these.

I was on a site (not going to say which one) when I noticed a video from PKF that I had commissioned several years back there on the "Suggested Videos" section of the home page. I got curious and started doing searches on this site for other videos I had commissioned through PKF, Chris' Corner, and Crime House. Much to my horror, many of them showed up. While this is frustrating for me, the person who came up with the idea, I can't imagine how frustrating this is for people like John and Advocate who produce these videos for the community.

People seriously need to stop pirating these videos because it will eventually lead to the bankruptcy of these studios who produce content for us.
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Agreed. It sucks not being able to have these videos taken down. The only things we can do is not give the pirated versions attention and support the studios by purchasing the official versions.

Something I've wondered is if it's piracy when you upload a video you own the private rights to. I'm not talking about a custom you commissioned, but a video you paid extra for so only you would have access to it. I wouldn't upload it myself in that scenario, but I don't know if a studio can stop an individual from uploading it when that individual purchased the rights.
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When you buy a "non-custom" production, you have the right to it. If it were a book, you could share it with a friend. But, you couldn't go down to the office and begin xeroxing copies of it and selling it.

A library could purchase a copy and put it on the shelves. Which means that people who joined the library could read it. But the library has a relationship with all those readers, who all have joined the library. In the pirate case, the pirate site doesn't buy the clip. It just sits there and waits for people, who have no right to do so, to upload someone else's hard work and production costs for free. And the person who uploads it has no relationship with all the other people who use that pirate site.

And that's where respect and appreciation for our community should take over.

When someone puts one of this producing community's work up on a site that sells a membership, the Uploader is essentially taking potential sales from the producers and turning them into pure profit for the pirate site owners, who pay nothing to the producers. And our producers are all making virtually nothing from their work in the first place, so it's a dead loss.

But that's not even the biggest issue. Doing one of these productions is a huge amount of personal hard work: organizing, writing, filming, editing, promoting. All with the hope of breaking even on a cash basis. That hope goes down the drain when the film shows up on a pirate site. The person who uploaded the production feels good. But he or she is ignoring the impact it ultimately has on everyone else.
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There are times when the pirating seems so rampant that you can't even give stuff away for free before it gets reposted on your not so friendly pirate sites. But the problem isn't really the pirate sites themselves, but rather its the unscrupulous nature of the people that are more than happy to download material they know is pirated from those same sites. The rot is mostly within the community.
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The individuals who upload pirated copies deserve most of the blame, but the websites are also at fault for making it difficult (if not virtually impossible) to have the pirated material taken down. They allow the pirated material to generate traffic without regard for the creators.

Like I mentioned above, this might be acceptable if the uploader owns the private rights to the video - they didn't just buy the video (which would only grant them the right to watch it), they bought ownership of it. In that case, the studio isn't making money off it in the first place because they can't sell it. The individual who bought the rights has exclusive control over who sees the video - but if they paid that much for exclusive access, I don't think they would be willing to share.
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The worst of the sites are hosted in Russia and China, and yeah the sites themselves must take most of the blame.
The Russian sites seem just content to piss off everyone else, but in China unless you have taken out copywrite in China, then they do not recognise it anywhere which is why the State will not intervene - because they do not recognise your right to your property if you are outside their Empire.
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Saying the sites are primarily to blame (yes they share some of the blame) is like saying poppy growers are primarily responsible for the problems associated with heroin addiction here in the USA. The problem is that there is a demand for the product. Without the demand, those pirate sites wouldn't exist. The demand comes from people too ethically challenged to purchase the product from an authorized source.
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Like I said above, I agree most of the blame should be towards the individuals uploading the pirated copies. At the same time, xj900 makes a good point about how these sites are able to circumvent copyright laws and prevent stolen content from being removed. Anyone lacking morals can pirate this content, but these websites enable it.
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xj900uk wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:54 am The worst of the sites are hosted in Russia and China, and yeah the sites themselves must take most of the blame.
The Russian sites seem just content to piss off everyone else, but in China unless you have taken out copywrite in China, then they do not recognise it anywhere which is why the State will not intervene - because they do not recognise your right to your property if you are outside their Empire.
I completely don't agree with you xj900uk. Unfortunately the most to blame is the domestic pirating not the foreign websites, Why ?

The pirating economy is not just only China or Russia but I found many websites from the south countries, muslims states, western asia, arabs countries, african sites, they are doing pirating economy in a rate of nearly 100 %, China and Russia are very small compared to them. The publics who are downloading the pirated products in those foreign websites are in vast majority the peoples of these foreign countries themselves they are not from the west, so I don't see a problem with that, Why ? If you know about it, in the arabs and in the muslims countries primarly many goods from the west are forbidden and censored for religious and cultural reasons, some who download them (like a death fetish video for example) could be put to death penalty, in Saudi Arabia for example... There are also many censorships in China that prevents people of this country to access porn-death-fetish materials therefore the only way for these peoples to get these products are the pirating system and internet, so we can not blame them definitely.

And also xj900uk you forget an important thing, Russia and China are already put under many sanctions by the west for years, mainly economically so blaming them to not doing shit against pirates sites that sell western products is not logical... While we are doing the same with Chinese& Russians products...
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I think it is disgusting that people would post videos that they know come from producers of our favourite material. Do they not know they are stealing ??? and potentially putting those producers out of business? I must admit that I have stumbled into a couple such sites, but in the end, I have found quite a few short clips there that made me go and purchase the video from the original producer, or made me aware of a producer. I know I am probably the 1% in that bracket.
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As long as producers do not either go private or cut their subseller links, they will not be able to track down the morons who find it is funny to upload the video they bought on a pirate site such as moth*rle** or else or a P2P.
And producers don't do that because it is tedious, time wasting to be the unique seller, ferret out the jerk who gives free lunches to the planet. And there are lots of jerks. And everyone is eager to get a free lunch!

Producers consider everytime they display a movie, even if sales are poor, some regular clients will buy another film. It helps.

Then it is too a niche market for lots of producers. Only the biggest producers in the mainstream music, video, could hire resources to track down illegal downloads.

To go private and make films for the happy few could deplete the pirate catalog but is certainly not a viable answer.

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I have posted this idea before, so pardon if it is repetitious. One key could be to IDENTIFY the reposting SLIMY TROLLS by hidden marks or keys in each digital video to identify the source of the reposted vid. Yes, it would be tedious, but in each five or so vids change something slightly very early in the vid that would not be noticed. Such as slightly alter a photo or a flower or a shadow or a wall paint mark or a position of an object. Even just consecutively changing the number of dots on the Title Page or in a later scene for each individual sale. Then note the buyer of each version, and cross reference those five buyers to catch a repeater. Then they could at least be banned by ISP address, or even outed to the community. After that other TROLLS might be deterred from reposting!.....................elsullo
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elsullo wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:38 pm I have posted this idea before, so pardon if it is repetitious. One key could be to IDENTIFY the reposting SLIMY TROLLS by hidden marks or keys in each digital video to identify the source of the reposted vid. Yes, it would be tedious, but in each five or so vids change something slightly very early in the vid that would not be noticed. Such as slightly alter a photo or a flower or a shadow or a wall paint mark or a position of an object. Even just consecutively changing the number of dots on the Title Page or in a later scene for each individual sale. Then note the buyer of each version, and cross reference those five buyers to catch a repeater. Then they could at least be banned by ISP address, or even outed to the community. After that other TROLLS might be deterred from reposting!.....................elsullo
Speak to Blue. He did something to each and everyone of his videos that he sold for a time, each one slightly unique in a different way, in order to catch whoever was putting his movies on to far eastern Pirate sites. And he did catch somebody, too, quite quickly in fact.
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Making these videos involves a huge amount of time and effort. Then having to spend more hours individually coding every copy doesn't work, because when you upload something on GumRoad, for example, the same copy goes to all the purchasers, until you re-upload it. And then one would have spend time surfing Mo***Fckr and the others to see what has been uploaded to their sites. It is just a massive pain.

We, as producers, depend on the integrity of you and the other purchasers to respect the work. Even if you don't like a particular clip, posting it on a pirate site just makes it harder for the producers to spend the money needed for better productions. It is a death-spiral for both producers AND the customers.
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well you can help report this account bc its posting a ton of old suzi vids.
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