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PLEASE don't put up links to M****r****, for ANY reason... It does more harm than good, for sure, because they don't actually take stuff down, ever...

Yeah, don't even mention the names of these sites. The only thing we can do is prevent them from receiving attention.

As xj pointed out, these sites use foreign servers, which makes it difficult, if not impossible to file DMCA takedowns of the videos. Terrible loophole.

StepenCollier87 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:16 pm I have to say, it is incredibly frustrating seeing these.

I was on a site (not going to say which one) when I noticed a video from PKF that I had commissioned several years back there on the "Suggested Videos" section of the home page. I got curious and started doing searches on this site for other videos I had commissioned through PKF, Chris' Corner, and Crime House. Much to my horror, many of them showed up. While this is frustrating for me, the person who came up with the idea, I can't imagine how frustrating this is for people like John and Advocate who produce these videos for the community.

People seriously need to stop pirating these videos because it will eventually lead to the bankruptcy of these studios who produce content for us.

My hatred for what your describing is partially why when I have custom videos produced, I pay the wad extra to keep it private between me and the producer, and not be made available for sale. I can maybe get past the horror of spending the usually $1000+ per video on something another person can pick up for $20, but some group of people getting it for free? No thanks. I've got about 50 hours of private drowning content that won't ever see the light of day because of these pirates.

And to be honest the hosting sites I don't think are the problem, it's the few robin hoods who are paying for the content and then deciding they want to share it with the world.

I don't consider the hosting websites as the main problem, but they are a problem for enabling the piracy and making it virtually impossible (if not actually impossible) to remove the pirated content. If they took down the pirated content, it wouldn't be an issue, but they're not.

xj900uk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:54 am The worst of the sites are hosted in Russia and China, and yeah the sites themselves must take most of the blame.
The Russian sites seem just content to piss off everyone else, but in China unless you have taken out copywrite in China, then they do not recognise it anywhere which is why the State will not intervene - because they do not recognise your right to your property if you are outside their Empire.

Ah as usual, old man Mr XJ copes again, blaming China and Russia

Why them? Because of too much BBC? Your favorite movie franchise has 'pandered to China', is it? ...whilst your favorite Dr Who has pandered to the woke market, is it? Because China has a strict anti-porn law where you are only restricted to (Japanese) gravure level porn. And why Russia?

This 'copywrite' [sic] thing in China was so 20 years ago

Who could blame China with their strict laws, this is why people pirate there - with a 15 minute video costing $20, the same amount as a Blu-ray movie, who could blame anybody

I have to say that moth**l*ss is very reliable in taking down stuff that gets reported as copyright infringe.
They run an automatic system that deletes reported movies within 24 hours.

Producers can just send their takedown request to: dmca@moth**l*ss.com
Don´t forget to tell them your legal name, company name and address.
Also they require a legal statment that you are the owner of copyright of the reported videos.
Then just copy the full URL to the videos and they will delete them.

This way I already removed hundreds of my videos from that site.

On some other sites it´s much harder though...

If someone finds one of my videos on one of these sites,
then just copy the link and send it to: reports@pontus-media.de

thanks!
Olaf

Olaf wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:49 am I have to say that moth**l*ss is very reliable in taking down stuff that gets reported as copyright infringe.
They run an automatic system that deletes reported movies within 24 hours.

Producers can just send their takedown request to: dmca@moth**l*ss.com
Don´t forget to tell them your legal name, company name and address.
Also they require a legal statment that you are the owner of copyright of the reported videos.
Then just copy the full URL to the videos and they will delete them.

This way I already removed hundreds of my videos from that site.

On some other sites it´s much harder though...

If someone finds one of my videos on one of these sites,
then just copy the link and send it to: reports@pontus-media.de

thanks!
Olaf

THant is good to know, I am glad that Motherless are cleaning up their act and will now get rid of the pirated stuff if it is properly reported to them - but, not sure how many disgruntled producers out there know about this - perhaps this info should be stickied somehow on this thread, that people do know there is a way to get Motherless to remove pirated material if the original producers/owners can prove it is actually their's?

And, re China, well my info may well be out of date, but I have had personal experience of dealing with China stealing intellectual property and the impossibilities of taking any action over this (but this was back in the noughties, so I grant you things could have changed)

Yes, despite that fact that it´s still a fuc**ng pirate site it´s quite easy to remove copyrighted material from there.
Producers can just copy a bunch of links into the e-mail and they will all be removed.

On other sites you have to send a single takedown request for each video.
That´s quite an effort if you find over 200 your videos on that site...

and by the way...

The business of Motherless is located in Costa Rica,
and their Domain is registered in Czech Republic.

Thanks for the information, Olaf. I've notified a producer - hopefully, the pirated uploads are removed.

It worked - the producer was able to have the pirated uploads taken down. Thanks again, Olaf.

Ok_Agent_7045 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:22 am

xj900uk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:54 am The worst of the sites are hosted in Russia and China, and yeah the sites themselves must take most of the blame.
The Russian sites seem just content to piss off everyone else, but in China unless you have taken out copywrite in China, then they do not recognise it anywhere which is why the State will not intervene - because they do not recognise your right to your property if you are outside their Empire.

Ah as usual, old man Mr XJ copes again, blaming China and Russia

Why them? Because of too much BBC? Your favorite movie franchise has 'pandered to China', is it? ...whilst your favorite Dr Who has pandered to the woke market, is it? Because China has a strict anti-porn law where you are only restricted to (Japanese) gravure level porn. And why Russia?

This 'copywrite' [sic] thing in China was so 20 years ago

Who could blame China with their strict laws, this is why people pirate there - with a 15 minute video costing $20, the same amount as a Blu-ray movie, who could blame anybody

He just forgot the others "axis of evil" : Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Belarus, Sudan, Somalia, Myanmar, Honduras, Mali, Central Africa, Burkina Faso, (Colombia new one in the "list")... etc... that are pirating our fetish movies for their terror interests against us !

Of course Japan is in the "good" side because they listen and obey to the US + we have troops in their land, and... also Morroco, Qatar and Saudi Arabia and "many others" we can not talk here.

Sorry, I don't watch Dr Who, Dr Who is an english puritan - man, not an alien from a type 3 civilization !

Piracy was the main reason I stopped producing. The last video I ever produced sold five copies before it was posted to a pirate site and never sold again. No amount of effort ever made a dent in stopping piracy. There came a time I just gave up.

You have my sympathies, Peter.

There was one author who combated pirating of her book by creating a 2-3 chapter version of it and uploading it to a bunch of torrent sites, completely inundating them with the "fake" version of the book so much no one could find the real full version amongst all the fakes. Because people still wanted to read the books (first being a popular author and because they had a "preview" that whetted their appetite for the story), they eventually went and properly purchased the books through legitimate storefronts.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be true for videos: Most of these pirated videos are hosted on streaming sites, not torrent/filesharing sites, and it's hard to overload those with the same shortened video file so as to get the customers sick of constantly trying to find the actual videos.

Maybe one could try uploading an edited full version that looks like it could be the actual one, but it's normal for the first minute or two but then blurs out key areas of the action so that it's hard to figure out if its the real version or a fake just from the thumbnail, preview, or scrollbar preview.

Then again, the account that uploads these might be eventually blocked by the users so that it doesn't show in search results, and doing this for every release might be too much to do every time across the many video hosting sites...