Bluestone's Official Podcast Transcript - Revived!

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xj900uk wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:30 am I love the extra scenes that Blue sometimes includes at the end of his movies, or as additional releases - all the fluffed lines, rehersal footage, and also practicing some scenes. You can tell that the actreses are genuinely interested in their work, often having a good laugh with the actors and also production crew, and really enjoying themselves. Also the fact that they come back timeafter time to do more death-fetish movies in a similar vein indicates that they enjoy the work, and also they are not being vicitimised, used, or taken advantage of by Blue and his Crew.
I was thinking the same about Olaf's occasional outtakes and 'making of' sequences in his Amazon Warriors videos. All the actresses are hard-working but so relaxed, laughing and joking around. That some of the actresses have been working for him for nearly ten years says enough IMO.
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i'm not accusing bluestone of anything but you guys are fucking stupid if you think a producer showing an actress smiling and laughing at the end means she's fine with what she's doing. he's her employer and she depends on him for her living. please.

i am sure blue is fine but i just hope you guys get a grip. many women in porn act happy because if they don't then they won't be hired again and some of them DON'T have a bad time. again i am not accusing blue of anything and probably he would even agree with my point.
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You comment seems to imply that pornstars, sexworkers and strippers are mostly innocent girls being exploited.

That is a false narrative, since those girls chose to leverage there advantage, there looks, to generate an income.

They could have worked at a restaurant or a warehouse but they chose not too.

I think its a natural subconscious male feeling to want to protect attractive girls, which is why I think that false narrative is so wide spread.

If your born pretty, it's easier to be a cam girl than an engineer.

It's there choice.

christine wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:15 pm i'm not accusing bluestone of anything but you guys are fucking stupid if you think a producer showing an actress smiling and laughing at the end means she's fine with what she's doing. he's her employer and she depends on him for her living. please.

i am sure blue is fine but i just hope you guys get a grip. many women in porn act happy because if they don't then they won't be hired again and some of them DON'T have a bad time. again i am not accusing blue of anything and probably he would even agree with my point.
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21gregor wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:34 pm You comment seems to imply that pornstars, sexworkers and strippers are mostly innocent girls being exploited.

That is a false narrative, since those girls chose to leverage there advantage, there looks, to generate an income.

They could have worked at a restaurant or a warehouse but they chose not too.

I think its a natural subconscious male feeling to want to protect attractive girls, which is why I think that false narrative is so wide spread.

If your born pretty, it's easier to be a cam girl than an engineer.

It's there choice.
oh my god grow the fuck up. it's also a natural subconscious male feeling to want to believe that women just love doing these performances. also open a book or article and read something about how coercion and economic necessity works and the material situations of a lot of porn stars. anyway i am NOT saying all or even most sex workers are being exploited i am just saying that you're fucking dense if you think some smiles at the end of a video CREATED BY HER EMPLOYER means she's super happy.
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"They could have worked at a restaurant or a warehouse but they chose not too."

oh look mcdonalds made a commercial where workers were smiling and saying how much they love mcdonalds, and you know what she could have worked at burger king so i guess wow mcdonalds is amazing and everyone loves working there it's a great industry so good for workers.

grow. the fuck. up.
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"i'm not accusing bluestone of anything but you guys are fucking stupid if you think a producer showing an actress smiling and laughing at the end means she's fine with what she's doing. he's her employer and she depends on him for her living. please."

You can literally apply that logic to any job.

You argument implies that all employees are exploited by evil employers.

That's a common argument I hear which I don't agree with.

That's all I'm saying.
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"You can literally apply that logic to any job."
correct. i apply this logic to every job. for every job you are fucking stupid if you think that the fact that the workers smile around their EMPLOYERS shows that they love their jobs. oh my god how can you be this dumb.

"You argument implies that all employees are exploited by evil employers."
no it doesn't. you don't know what words mean i guess. i already said that i am NOT saying all these actresses or even most of them are exploited. i'm just saying that watching them smile and giggle at the end of videos shows you nothing.
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Ok
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The fact that these actresses come back and work with these producers (Blue, John M, and many others) shows that they aren't exploiting them or treating them poorly. If they do, those girls won't work for them anymore and will find something else to do or someone else to work with.

I'm not sure I see any issues with what Gregor said. In fact, I agree with him.
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Outtakes from the cast and crew of 'Cold Cases' are clearly genuine gaffes presented for comic relief

- certainly not calculated set-ups consciously concealing or obfuscating -

exhibiting a cadre of close-knit professionals working comfortably together with respect and courtesy.


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Take it from me, people.
I have worked with some right bastards over the years (not in the adult entertainment industry, before you ask!). They can be in an employment or profession, and all walks of life and types of job, employment or service.
I honestly do not believe Blue is one of them. The fact that he has good relationships ith over 90% of his production crew and actors/actresses, past and present, and that they are happy and content to work with him on a regular basis speaks volumes.
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There is no job that ever made me smile or good about myself. Nobody loves to work. Does that mean I'm being exploited? Absolutely not. I have to work to pay bills, and somedays I hate every fucking minute of my job. But does that mean I'm being exploited? Nope. I work my job because I choose to. You don't have to love your job to keep from being exploited. Hello - most folks don't like their job. That doesn't mean exploitation.
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The term exploitation is being dangerously tossed around here. It requires specific patterns and behaviors that are likely illegal. Not loving you job is NOT exploitation. Even being treated badly by a shitty boss is NOT exploitation. Exploitation can happen ANYWHERE. Warehouse, office, etc. It involves specific patterns if behavior. So let's stop spreading the myths about certain industries just because they hold a stigma. Exploitation can and does happen ANYWHERE. And not loving you job 100% does NOT mean you're being exploited.
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oh my god i have not been saying anyone is being exploited i am just saying it is so dumb to think smiley outtakes show that someone is happy with their work.
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Wow! F---ing Wow! What a slew of interesting comments. I agree with many, but not with all.

I can only speak for myself as a producer, but I have worked for, and been, a boss in industries other than filming, and know loads about how people are treated in the workplace and people's motivations for working... or not! As an employee or employer in other industries, I have always tried to work well with people. Some of my current staff have been with me for many years. Is it because they love working for me? Maybe, but it is still work. They have to work, but they have discovered that it is always best to work in a pleasant environment with a caring boss. For example, one of my current female employees has been with me for 35 years. Why? Well, it hasn't been because she was afraid to leave and try another employer. She left 3 times over those 35 years, either to take a position closer to her home, or to secure a higher salary, but she always came back, because as she said, "No employer treats me as well as you do." No, she's not a beauty, but she's very good at her job, and has learned that all jobs, even in the same industry, are not the same.

Now, that was my real world experience, and when I decided to become a part-time producer in a totally different industry, the last thing I needed to do was to throw out all of my experience as an employer and start to exploit models and actresses. What did I do? How did I assemble the most beautiful cast in the industry? Well, I guess from your comments you are all asking for the next episode of my podcast transcript to be, "Bluestone's Casting Couch", right? Well, of course mainstream readers would simply take that phrase to mean that we have comfy seats in our audition room, right? LOL! Well, you'll have to tune in to see what I do actually mean. Of course, I first have to write it. LOL!
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