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Any AI not censored able to writte stories?

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Hi pals!

I'm increasing my intest in AI generated content. I tried ChatGPT but it doens't want to create a story with fetish content. Is there any AI not censored and usefull to generate tales with bloody fetishes?

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I have been playing with this topic since last September and have a wealth of information.

First you need to decide if you want what you write to be private or not, i.e., possibly looked at by admins and algorithms and , according to some sites, even reported for violent and/or adult content. Most of the web-based sites with a couple exceptions, do just that. Reading any TOS will often day in fine print...."not private" and something about "option to alert authorities", specifically for UK, USA and German customers.

If yes, you don't mind that, there are many sites like this: https://open-assistant.io/dashboard, which folks are finding success at writing stories. And here is an uncensored Openai: http://adultopenai.pythonanywhere.com/, but beware, you have to use your API Key, so it can get your Openai account banned.

The other option for web-based story writing sites is Novelai. They are completely uncensored and delete your encrypted session when you leave. So if you don't save the story, it is gone forever. And that is great, because there is privacy to be creative as you like.

And that brings me to self-hosting your own ai model on your local PC. If you have a powerful computer, preferably a videocard with 24BG of ram, you can easily do that. In fact, 2 new language models were released the other day that show great promise. This is what I do, and my experiments last night with these new models went well. And they also have versions that will work on computers with lower VRAM---as low as 6GB.

Now here is where is gets a little confusing. So, I am not going to go into details unless your nerdy enough to do the work, cause I am not a patient explainer. But to start, research Pygmalion 7b (or 6b) for chat. And Metharme 7b for writing (and there are many, many others for writing). I mostly use chat because I like roleplay. Research Koboldai--which is the thingy that will run the models. Or if you only want chat, look at oobagooba. You want more details, links to auto installers, etc, just ask. But, I find the Discord channels for these things have the most to offer...granted I have already done that bazillion hours of research. And, then there are other complexities, like understanding anaconda, pytorch, etc, etc....

Ok, probably said too much to be helpful.

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John did a great job laying it all out there.

I've been enjoying Open Assistant so far and it's had no issues whatsoever creating violent and sexual content for me. I really hope they keep it uncensored, but time will tell.
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Thanks so much for the info and tips John! It's great when someone has opened the path before you ;)

I'll give a try at openassistance and let see what I can do there...
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Ok, the better results I get was using "open assistant Dashboard" but couldn't get more than 100 words... Any tip for longer stories?
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yog-sothoth wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:08 am Ok, the better results I get was using "open assistant Dashboard" but couldn't get more than 100 words... Any tip for longer stories?
I stay away from any sites that can monitor your inputs. Keep in mind, when you join Open Assistant, you agree to:
In particular it is prohibited to enter texts that lead to the creation of pornographic, violence-glorifying or paedosexual content and/or content that violates the personal rights of third parties. LAION reserves the right to file a criminal complaint with the competent authorities in the event of violations.
I mean, in theory, they could have red flag triggers to push certain content to admins and someone thinking they are saving the world from you could report the content. Unlikely, but still, why the risk. Better to you a site like Novelai until someone releases a chatgpt-based bot quantized as 4bit so people can run them on their own systems and avoid possible scrutiny.

And on that note, because I run models locally, every day I am intruduced to new models and many merged models. Last night I use one that combined inqury+chat+story creation. I created a bot in a few minutes that had a great understanding of how to build awesome stories based on my input. In a few minutes I had a it create basic story to my liking. And as the models get smarter, they get more detailed, etc. Something to research.

But, anything hosted, just be aware of the TOS and how they can monitor your inputs. Again, Novelai is uncensored and does not monitor. You could also try holo ai https://writeholo.com/, as they have similar claims. But I think Novelai is the best value. However, if you are looking for "free", then the Koboldai path is the way to go....but takes a lot more work to tweek. Kobold will also allow openai chatgpt connection---but, openai monitors content and suspends accounts. For chat, combine Koboldai with Tavernai, or chat only skip it all and just use Oobabooga. If you have a slow system, new 4-bit models will work on as low as 6GB video card memory.

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Thanks John!

Sure I need to improve my skills and experience. I tried again NovelAI as you advised it and just manage small sentences. Nothing close to a story. Sure I'm doing something wrong. I'll keep trying.
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I don't get it. Writing stories isn't all that difficult. Why in the world would you want to use AI for it? Serious question.
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With Open Assistant, I used their "30B_7e3" model and the "k50-Creative" preset. That seemed to produce nice results. With the tokens set to 1024, that was generating 2048 characters per reply from the AI. When I wanted it to write a story, I gave it a prompt and let it get started. Then I offered follow up prompts to get it to continue. It actually did a really nice job.

As for why someone might use an AI to write stuff, I think an AI can do a great job helping you get past writer's block by kicking around ideas with you. You could ask it for ideas of how to continue something. You could also let it start writing and then pick up from where it leaves off. Or you could sit back and relax and have some erotic fun with it writing stories or discussing scenes that help get you off.
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trish wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 8:06 pm I don't get it. Writing stories isn't all that difficult. Why in the world would you want to use AI for it? Serious question.
It's just I like to be surprised with a plot. I prefer to read a story I didn't wrote.
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Snuff Princess wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 12:28 am With Open Assistant, I used their "30B_7e3" model and the "k50-Creative" preset. That seemed to produce nice results. With the tokens set to 1024, that was generating 2048 characters per reply from the AI. When I wanted it to write a story, I gave it a prompt and let it get started. Then I offered follow up prompts to get it to continue. It actually did a really nice job.

As for why someone might use an AI to write stuff, I think an AI can do a great job helping you get past writer's block by kicking around ideas with you. You could ask it for ideas of how to continue something. You could also let it start writing and then pick up from where it leaves off. Or you could sit back and relax and have some erotic fun with it writing stories or discussing scenes that help get you off.
I tried but couldn't find "30_7e3" and the tokens are limited to 1024. Perhaps I need to buy a "team" access to get the model and increase the tokens?

Thanks for the help my friends... I'm getting started with that ;)
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I noticed they updated the models recently. Any of the 30B models should be fine. The key is to set the preset to "k50-Creative" if you want to get less stilted replies.

The 1024 token limit is per response generated by the AI. That equates to up to 2048 characters. That's actually pretty good.

I've gotten it to write very long stories before. What I've done is kept asking it to continue and add more details, basically doing it in parts.

All of these things are a work in progress, but this Open Assistant shows a lot of promise.
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Snuff Princess wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:00 am I noticed they updated the models recently. Any of the 30B models should be fine. The key is to set the preset to "k50-Creative" if you want to get less stilted replies.

The 1024 token limit is per response generated by the AI. That equates to up to 2048 characters. That's actually pretty good.

I've gotten it to write very long stories before. What I've done is kept asking it to continue and add more details, basically doing it in parts.

All of these things are a work in progress, but this Open Assistant shows a lot of promise.
Thanks for the advice! Would the "do anything now" prompt work for making it bypass limits?
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