Music In our Videos

[bakerboy]

Here is something fun, a 3 minute music video I did. 3 hours of footage, 30 hours of editing--never got paid, so this was not the final edit. Flaky rappers: http://jmhstudios.com/lexxi/bobby_lovable_1a.wmv

Cute and funny. Kudos to the editor! The music is also good. The cameraman though needed some help. Not even the best editor can make a purse from a sows ear. My very point.

[JohnM]

I have never met anyone that has owned a mac and not liked it, so I am assuming then degrading mac ownership it comes out of some perceived notion that mac owners feel superior to PC owners. Ahh contrar. I have owned about 30 PC's and 3 mac's. I have edited around 1200 movies, represented by 2-3 thousand hours of footage and probably around 20k+ hours of editing time over the last 14 years. I have edited on both--the first 3-4 years I did all my work on a PC....then half and half for up to the last year or so. I finally dropped PC's completely about a year ago after an incident that never, ever, ever happens on mac. And, since the price is the same (if not less)when compared to overall use experience by me over the years, it was a no brainier. I would never diss the PC. I would diss Windows Vista. It is fine for some things. If I was a gamer--I would get a PC. If I want something for everything because I did not want multiple computers (and I like to play games), I would get a PC. But, as I said, I used both a PC and a Mac for years, thus have plenty of experience with both systems and OS. The PC was for email, photoshop and other applications, the Mac was dedicated for editing. It is easier to keep it separated. I could have done it with two PC's, but I like FCP interface better then Premier. And, why I said YUCK, was based on old crappy version of Premier as Paul mentioned. I never had problems with FCP....started with 1 and now am at version 6.5HD. Crashes, I get....mmmm, once every couple months I will get one I suppose. Anyhow, if I wanted something that holds up like FCP, probably Avid Media Composer would probably be closest, though, I have used Vegas when I had my PC, and that had pretty logical workflow. Also, right now, there are about 50 viruses for the Mac, 6 of them were active in the last couple years. Only 1 new one is floating around networks recently, but I was patched against that the next day. For PC there are well over 1 million in addition to malware. With the industry I am in and the type of sites I surf...it just made more sense on that level too.

Anyhow, PC or MAC, just use what is best for your circumstance.

JohnM

[JohnM]

No, no, I have not high horse to get up on about a mac. Just for me, it's my rock. It's my livelyhood. So, if I invest 3 times what a comparable PC was 2.5 years ago, it is most likely faith-based. Besides--bigger tax write off.

JohnM

[Rue Morgue]

Final cut would crash just as bad as Premiere. But Final Cut people always say this because they jumped ship on Premiere because it had problems and found that Cut had them also but where else were they going to go. And because of that, they didn't know that Premiere had done the same fixes as Cut did to solve these problems. Premiere since Pro does not crash ever. And it has everything cut has. The only difference from Mac to PC is the price.

Well, a lot of people with experience with both PC's and MAC's would certainly take exception to the above, including the independent rating companies. Now that the MAC's are using Intel chips, you can actually run any PC programs on them as well. I have personally built over 200 PC's [high end models for people who do heavy graphics, gaming, or require servers with plenty of muscle] and I have repaired hundreds of mass produced PC's which are mostly crap; by comparison, the components of MAC's are much higher quality components than those found in off the shelf PC's.

As far as FCP crashing. Well, I didn't start using it till FCP 3. I think I might have had one crash in 6 years. I have never used MAC OS 9, and your comments regarding MAC sound like they are based upon the old, piecemeal OS. But MAC OS X is a whole different kitty. It is essentially BSD UNIX. Unix is a real operating system as opposed to any iteration of windows which is hundreds of little turds [lovingly known as "DLL's"] scattered around the computer like a mad woman's sh*t. Unix is powerful enough to run entire countries computer systems.

I know people like to think they are more professional because they use a Mac but I've seen both in action and there really is no difference again until you look at the price. So if you have a lot of money to burn, or an ego, go for a Mac.

How absurd and illogical to direct your argument against MAC users. Most MAC users I know use them because the computers themselves are a better physical product and because the Operating System has exponentially fewer crashes than any system that oozed out of Microsoft's back end. It is a matter of people who live "where the rubber meets the road" make choices based upon their real world experience; not because of some absurd ego based reason. If you are a "git r done' person, it's a pretty logical choice, actually.

I didn't mean to suggest that some one hated the Mac. Just that it was no different or better as they thought it would be. Independent test have shown that both perform pretty much the same. But everything I've seen shows the Mac to be a lot higher in price.

Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Intelligent people tend to make decisions on performance, price, and reliability, not emotional whims or prejudices. If you compare a high end PC to an off the shelf MAC (they only make high end models) the performance of the "box" is pretty comparable. So is the price. A $300 PC does not perform at the same level as an off the shelf MAC. However, the garden variety monitors for PC's, especially the lower priced ones, tend to be (and look) anemic. The standard resolution for MAC graphic components (off the shelf) is generally far better than the resolution possible for off the shelf PC's. You certainly can get monitors and graphics for PC's that are comparable to MAC monitors and graphics, but the price differential evaporates pretty quickly. Beyond the 'box', the PC falls on it's face as far as reliability. I have Vista on one of my PC's and while it's crash resistant compared to earlier windows editions, it fails miserably with some media conversion programs I use. It is as stable, but not as functional as Windows XP -64 bit which in my experience has been very stable. Probably only two or three crashes since 2005 when I first got it. It runs all day, every day, 24/7, 365 days a year [as do my MAC's]

This thread was supposed to be about MUSIC in videos.

My bottom line. No matter what you edit with, or what sort of a box you are running, including a musical score and appropriate, high quality sound Fx increases the production value of nearly any movie, IMHO. Customers seem to appreciate a good musical score and Sound Fx and if you give them either that isn't good or isn't appropriate for the scene, they will sure let you know. Well, it certainly enhances my viewing pleasure.

[bakerboy]

This thread was supposed to be about MUSIC in videos.

I agree 100 %. To me it is "what" not "how". NO amount of good technology ( Mac or PC) will replace talent and care. That was my point in my posts.