Snuffed by the recession?

[JohnM]

Algenon5---

That is awesome that you are still able to budget for 1-2 a week. You are helping out a lot. I know a lot of customers have cut it down to once a month or less for reason you have stated.

Taking the economy out of it, there is a constant battle to keep things new and fresh while recycling the 10 or so standard scenarios that exist based on restrictions defined by this being a fetish--mostly that the girl always ends up dead

I can imagine that after a while it looks like this: into, confrontation, death, postmortem. Then, add sex in-between and you have basically got the jist of most scenarios. What changes is plot, method of death, were and if the sex occurs and location.

I think out of all these variables, location is what creates perceptually, the most difference. Of course, many producers, because of this content, are restricted on locations. Houses, hotels and studios become the norm. I am in a studio. No matter how many hours I spend decorating a set, the 3 painted walls look the same. Luckily, it is time to paint again. :-) Some producers have the luck of having an outdoor location to use.

The $40-50 price points are rare--fortunately. I put out a video recently that was in 3 parts. It was over 110 minutes with 10 kills for $53 (combined parts) or just over $5 a kill. Psycho Thrillers just came out with a 71 minute 3 kill scenario for $35. KHP put out a 4-girl kill that was about 8 minutes long for $20--Paul has a lot of effects work to do. In these three cases, where the price may seem inconsistent with the norm, they reflect the best of what these three producers have to offer and I feel are justified in their pricing...especially to their fans.

But, I know what you mean. There are some stores that put out really expensive videos that seem to fly in the face of logic. It could be the project is very specialized, they know only a few customers are going to buy anyway, so they price it high.

Well, thanks for supporting this community. The one good thing is that there are many producers, forcing plenty of competition and lots of good values right now. Just hang in there and I am sure movies that peak your interest will start coming out more and more as the economy improves. I know I have lots of ideas for next year in anticipation of better times.

JohnM

[UKSG]

Just to let you guys know the reason UKSG productions pulled out of the public domain wasn't because of lack of making money, it was because we found out that there was too many people file sharing - why should some people get our videos free and others have to pay for it? It really got the partner's goat. If we do come back you will only be able to screen our videos via paying on a website and us posting a DVD to you. We know this won't stop file sharing but it's more work to take a DVD and make it into an MPEG and an AVI.

[JohnM]

UKSG--

That is too bad.

I have been dealing with file sharing for years in various ways. It sucks but I can't afford to shut down because of something like that. If I did, my good customers would loose a good producer. In addition, I am a fetishist myself. I produce this content because I enjoy it. I couldn't just stop. What would I do. :-)

Over the years I have come to rational about file-sharing that helps me sleep at night, keeps me proud of what I produce and extremely grateful to those that do support me. It's all I can do.

Good luck and hope to see you guys back someday. I love those sexy UK ladies!!!!

JohnM

[UKSG]

Thanks johnm, it was a group decision (partners) to stop all videos in the public domain, we still shoot fantasy strangling videos and still make a really good wage out of it. So it’s not all bad.

[Nightposter]

This probably should be a new topic...maybe not... I have a question for UKSG:
When you "come back", would you try and convince the partners to produce some longer length "features" for us ( for sale)
One suggestion would be to offer the customer a rebate or royalty, if they would allow an edited version to be sold.

example; I dealt with a producer back in the 90's supplying him with uniforms to fill a customer's orders. After he became comfortable with me, he sent me edited versions of what he filmed - edited because in each vid there were scenes where the customer starred as the man behind the screen , charging the victim with something and then saying "take her away!".

Even with out those scenes the vids are great.
Anyway, I no longer have contact with that producer, as his customer passed away in 2002. I have 12 vids from this guy, and none of them have ever been shown to anyone but me...
( keeping my promise)

Or maybe shoot some shorts at the same time you are doing a custom ( same actress different story)

Just a thought...

[UKSG]

No I think the plan is to shoot new shorts of 3 to 4 minutes and show clips and vid caps of the video on a new site, once you order we will send the short film out to the customer via post on DVD.

Then if the amounts of orders are good we will offer custom videos at an affordable price. The site will be for members only a kind of low cost version of our main site. But to offer the customer a rebate or royalty on custom videos might be a good idea.

[Algenon5]

Well, JohnM, $10 to $30 for sales-tax-free downloads isn't much when you consider McDonalds and a movie easily costs that much. I don't do McDonalds or in-theater movies, except on rare occasions. I do have Ntflix (5 buck a week) and my few downloads. This doesn't require great wealth. Besides, life is short.

Yes, after a while snuff videos tend to look alike. So what? There is nothing wrong in repeating a formula, provided it's a good one and you work effectively within its framework. Westerns and romantic comedies have been doing this forever. The formula boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl hasn't changed in a hundred years, and I don't hear anybody complaining. Stick with the program, especially when runtimes are twenty minutes or less. If a producer is gonna make a post mortem video, be sure it's 80% post mortem. The same applies to snuff and sex. I recently bought a "snuff" video that turned out to be 10% setup, 50% strip tease, 30% simulated sex and 10% snuff. Actually the strip tease was great, but it wasn't what I paid for, or would have had I known.

When it come to snuff video variables - plot, cast size, locations - I'm a big believer of simplicity and concentration of effort. That is why I much prefer controllable indoor locations with one killer and one attractive victim WHO CAN ACT. Combine these elements with carefully chosen camera angles, good camera work that doesn't wander all over the place and a little smart direction (that includes not going nuts with the editing program), and you'll have a winner that I'll rush to buy. Fortunately a few videos like this still are being made.

So I am hanging in there, and I am optimistic for the future.

[shootingmad]

Right on, Paul!

Okay, here's the deal! A 90 day membership to Bluestone's Silk Videos is $50 for 90 days which gives you at least 4 videos immediately and 2 per month during the 90 day membership period. So, it is very reasonably priced already. For the next 24 hours, I have slashed this 90 day membership in half to only $25.00 as my way of helping those who have not been able to afford a membership in these tough times. A membership can be purchased using all major credit cards here: http://www.silknblood.com/store/product ... cts_id=125

Enjoy

Blue

Blue, I have to say this:

I hate the "add to cart" registration crap. You have to register a member and then do the purchase like a supermarket webpage where you add products to a cart.
And lets say im an outsider guy with not much knowledge about your website, where on this membership purchase page do I get to see what I get with my purchase? Maybe a picture and a little description of the 4 movies in the archive you get right away could be a good idea to display on the same registration page.

and going back to the registration process, is this the only way to sign up? do i have to register a member first and then purchase the 90 days package?

[Bluestone]

Hi Shootingmad,

The store site is just the final step to purchase memberships or ppv videos. That is why there is very little information there. All of the details, including the last four released videos, are posted at http://www.silkvideos.com. The current four videos on the site are Escort Wars 2 & 3, White Slavery, and Deadly Rendezvous. This is where the descriptions and promo photos are posted.

As for the store, you register once at the store and your info and credit card information is stored for your next visit. Then, you can purchase a 90 day membership or just individual videos. Does that clarify the process, my friend?

Blue

[UKSG]

Hey, Blue you do a great job just keeping the whole thing alive and anyone, and i do mean anyone who cares about their stuff and fight for it to stay alive well, I will take my hat off to :-) Keep trucking everyone!!!!