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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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dragonlleo wrote:Honestly, I gess a bad idea just add this effect in a video where it just wasn't in context. Yvonne's role in WA19 created an atmosfere to the orgasm by body reactions an in WA20 there is a inner monologue. In other words, the scenario and script favored the orgasm asect, what don't happened in WA3 (a great video however). But I think a wrong way to measure this element adding it in a place where it get out of context. Few people will buy it because it's an old video and I think that they will not buy it just for this effect. With all respect, bad idea.
You're passing Judgement on something you haven't seen, the effects are added to the parts where it looks like September has cum, when she jerks that's where we add the effect, anyway it's up to everyone who is into this to show your support, if sales are not good then we will not pursue this idea in the future.
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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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You might be right Director B,

But overall, I have to agree with dragonlleo on this one (at least my instinct tells me to). I don't think this video is a great way to measure if the effect is worth doing. I'm the person who's always advocating for the effect, yet I have little interest in buying this particular video mainly because the actress doesn't pull me, and also because, as dragonlleo said, the effect might not work so well in the context of the situation. For example, if the actresses' expressions are mainly showing pain, I'm not sure I'd enjoy the video. But in WA19, Yvonne definitely had the right posture (arching of the back) and moaning so it worked in post. Catwarrior 8 I enjoyed the video, but it was also clear it was done in post. Still, many people bought the squirting version of CW8. Please don't measure if the effect is worth doing again based on this one video.

This is just my opinion, but I think it would be a far better indicator to film a new WA episode with Yvonne who's comfortable being topless and acting aroused (according to the script this time) and seeing if the movie sells. Just the fact that it would be a new film, and the fact it was intentionally filmed and acted to include the orgasm, would have a greater pull on customers. If it did well, I think that then it would be worth going back and editing some of the older films. Again, I'm just a fan, but I think this would be the best option, personally.
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Falleen wrote:You might be right Director B,

But overall, I have to agree with dragonlleo on this one (at least my instinct tells me to). I don't think this video is a great way to measure if the effect is worth doing. I'm the person who's always advocating for the effect, yet I have little interest in buying this particular video mainly because the actress doesn't pull me, and also because, as dragonlleo said, the effect might not work so well in the context of the situation. For example, if the actresses' expressions are mainly showing pain, I'm not sure I'd enjoy the video. But in WA19, Yvonne definitely had the right posture (arching of the back) and moaning so it worked in post. Catwarrior 8 I enjoyed the video, but it was also clear it was done in post. Still, many people bought the squirting version of CW8. Please don't measure if the effect is worth doing again based on this one video.

This is just my opinion, but I think it would be a far better indicator to film a new WA episode with Yvonne who's comfortable being topless and acting aroused (according to the script this time) and seeing if the movie sells. Just the fact that it would be a new film, and the fact it was intentionally filmed and acted to include the orgasm, would have a greater pull on customers. If it did well, I think that then it would be worth going back and editing some of the older films. Again, I'm just a fan, but I think this would be the best option, personally.
Thanks for your feedback Falleen, you have to understand that because we use models and actresses, (not porn actresses), the idea of having this in the script will scare them off, and if you don't understand that then what can I say. Yvonne has made it clear that this was the last video of that kind she will do, so not having support has essentially put the nail in the coffin for these videos. Although we have been here before where people have voiced their views yet sales reflect a different story, so we wait and see.

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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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Thanks for your response Director B,
That really surprises me about Yvonne, given her background in hardcore porn. It was also my impression that the next Darkwing movie was going to have the squirting orgasm as part of the script :(
If Stephanie could come back in a sequel to WA20, and is comfortable doing it again, that would be great.
Also, as I said before, if Athena Amazon Onslaught was modified I'd definitely buy it. If the effect would work with the WA movies starring the incredibly gorgeous Danica, again, I'd buy them. First reason I buy the videos is the actress.
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Falleen wrote:Thanks for your response Director B,
That really surprises me about Yvonne, given her background in hardcore porn. It was also my impression that the next Darkwing movie was going to have the squirting orgasm as part of the script :(
If Stephanie could come back in a sequel to WA20, and is comfortable doing it again, that would be great.
Also, as I said before, if Athena Amazon Onslaught was modified I'd definitely buy it. If the effect would work with the WA movies starring the incredibly gorgeous Danica, again, I'd buy them. First reason I buy the videos is the actress.
Thanks again.
Why would it surprises you that Yvonne would move on, the reason most actresses or model do Porn is for the money and because of piracy and life she has moved on, piracy is killing porn and life is what happens when you're making plans as John Lennon once said. :-)
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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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(Sighs) Those fucking pirates. Thanks for your honesty Director B. Though this video isn't my #1 choice I'll buy it to support you guys (still looks quite nice ;) ). Hope you can bring in an actress in the near future who's comfortable doing the orgasm as part of the script.
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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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You mean Yvonne isn't going to do any more Darkwing movies with you at all, Mr B? I'd hate it for that to happen, she's been one of your mainstays for a long time. :shake:
Even if she doesn't want to act in front of the camera, you should try and keep her around on the production team passing on her experience, tips and ideas.
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xj900uk wrote:You mean Yvonne isn't going to do any more Darkwing movies with you at all, Mr B? I'd hate it for that to happen, she's been one of your mainstays for a long time. :shake:
Even if she doesn't want to act in front of the camera, you should try and keep her around on the production team passing on her experience, tips and ideas.
No, she's still with us, I meant she's moved on from doing porn.
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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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OK thank you for the clarification.
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"White Angel 3a - Full Alternate Version"

Link to buy:
http://www.silknblood.com/store/index.p ... uct&id=896

The full version and loads of squirting orgasms have been added while September Rose is tied to a chair and strangled! If enough people buy this re-edited video, we will do more. If not, we will not be doing this effect anymore.
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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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Well, we've sold 4 copies so far. Not a great endorsement for this effect. We did indeed sell an equal number of the Extreme version of "Catwarrior 8" with and without the squirting effect. So, it looks like more re-edits aren't going to happen, but we will consider adding the effect to certain new videos, but only when appropriate.

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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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As I've already said - and I'm stressing this is just my opinion - I don't think this was the best movie to try this out on. It's an older video, and I personally (again just my opinion) don't find the actress nearly as attractive as, say, Danica or Nadia. I would be much more willing to buy a re-edited WA movie with Danica or Athena Amazon Onlsaught with the added effects. Please don't give up on the effect based on only the sales from this video. As you said, CW8 sold a lot more copies because the video was newer and Mink is a freaking fox.
Here's a hypothetical comparison: here's a new 4K ultra HD format. Let's see how it sells based on the number of people who buy the 4K ultra HD 1986 movie of Blue Velvet.
Blue Velvet is a great movie, and so is WA3, but you're going to sell the new format much better selling Thor: Ragnarok.
These are just my thoughts.
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Falleen wrote:As I've already said - and I'm stressing this is just my opinion - I don't think this was the best movie to try this out on. It's an older video, and I personally (again just my opinion) don't find the actress nearly as attractive as, say, Danica or Nadia. I would be much more willing to buy a re-edited WA movie with Danica or Athena Amazon Onlsaught with the added effects. Please don't give up on the effect based on only the sales from this video. As you said, CW8 sold a lot more copies because the video was newer and Mink is a freaking fox.
Here's a hypothetical comparison: here's a new 4K ultra HD format. Let's see how it sells based on the number of people who buy the 4K ultra HD 1986 movie of Blue Velvet.
Blue Velvet is a great movie, and so is WA3, but you're going to sell the new format much better selling Thor: Ragnarok.
These are just my thoughts.
Well, Falleen only 4 has been sold and people are not speaking up so what to do eh? This will be up to the boss if the old films are adjusted to fit this element.
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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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Well, I've already decided on this one. Waste of time for my editors to re-edit any of the older videos in order to just get a few sales. It's a thumbs down on this experiment.

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Re: More Squirting Orgasms?

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A squirt effect in DW3CG, Darkwing's Return or Wonderkick vs Superkick would be great! But it seems that will not happen... Shame... :cry:
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