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I love the super heroine vids ! I still would like to see supernova prime and darkwing ! I like some white
angle vids but mostly the super heroine ones . I still love Nadia as the sexy amazon !! I would like to see some new heroines ! Maybe have a contest where the customers come up with some new heroines and
if you like it they win some free vids . I would like to see something new happen to our heroines . Instead
of chocked or shot they could be put in some kind of deadly trap . In the peril version they escape in
the extreme version they don't !! I would like to see supernove prime be hypnotized and battle darkwing
beat her and take her outfit and put it on and think she is darkwing so she forgets her other powers that
would be hot to see melody as darkwing !!!!! I want to see some rough chloro scenes where the heroine
struggles hard !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and maybe white angle crosses over to the heroines and are they friends
are not !!!!!!

I didn't contribute to crowd funding campaign.

The thing is you can look at clips in one of two ways:
1. A transaction. You see a clip, you like it and buy it. Transaction complete.
2. An investment. You like a character and/or actress and you want to see them in a million clips, you are a fan and you want them to be around for the long haul.

I'm a number 2. So my way of thinking that as much as I like Melody, I'm not going to invest if she's going to disappear or stop being Supernova. If I knew a new Supernova clip was going to come out every couple of months with Melody for the next five or so years for $30 each I would buy every one of them. But with no guarantees I'm not in.

But that's just me...

Over the years (ever since Final Assignment first made me find BS) I'd say I've probably bought 70% of the videos you've produced under the "superheroine" banner.

However... I did not contribute to the crowdfunding campaign. Why? Well the thing that actually drives my purchase of videos first and foremost is if I like the actress in them. I will occassionally buy the odd video where I'm not that keen on the actress if there are enough of the fetish elements in the video I enjoy.

The problem I had with the crowdfunding campaign is that I was essentially being asked to contribute to two videos I otherwise probably wouldn't have bought (purely personal preference that I dont enjoy say Yvonne as much as Lynda or Summer etc) on the possibility it might save future superheroine videos with the actresses that I do like. When its put like that, it felt like I was "gambling" money.

With regards to the quality of productions, I'd happily enjoy lower quality videos without the large casts and less sfx. Videos like Final Assignment, the first 4 white angel films, and The Visitor were all very well shot and I enjoyed the most because they were strangle movies with great tension and back & forth battles. The recent videos with "electric" sfx etc. don't really add anything for me.

One thing I did find quite curious is how some of the recent productions appear to have been shot in the US where historically everything seemed to be filled in the UK?

I did "reluctantly" contribute to 3 or 4 elements into 1 of the videos......
Would I do it again? well.....maybe......reluctantly......
I do not like this direction because it means, imo, that those who want to keep the series running are pressured into putting in an investment that gives them no more reward than someone who will purchase the videos on release.......there have been 2 crowd funded videos that (even though the amount asked for didn't even come close to being reached), are still getting released (not complaining on the release factor, I do want at least one of them)....... but those who invested, are getting exactly the same as those who didn't......Doesn't seem fair to me....

So as to the crowd funding direction........I do not believe it is the right one.......

I wouldn't miss Wondra, Supernova or Darkwing so much - BUT, I would miss the likes of Emma/Lynda, Melody/Melanie/Danica and Yvonne...... The super heroines stories are an added bonus to me, but not necessarily a requirement.......In saying that.....if they were to all become White Angels......then my interest would peak a bit more due the the main weakness of these lovely ladies......

I do really hope a direction can present itself however, because I do not wish this world of yours to disappear........

YTJGabriel04 wrote:....... but those who invested, are getting exactly the same as those who didn't......Doesn't seem fair to me....

That's not exactly the case. You are getting your elements and paying less for the video itself... but I do understand your frustration. I'm frustrated too, because the campaigns did not raise even close to what I needed, so I had to go into further debt to get them produced... but others will get the reward from my underwriting of the costs. So, I'm feeling a little used too.

Crowd funding might not have been the perfect device to get these videos produced on a cost effective basis, but no one has really come up with a viable alternative. I obviously can't keep forking out the production costs when sales revenues do not fully reimburse me for those costs. So, simply making them and hoping that I will sell enough to get my investment back is not a viable option.

So, I'm listening, but I've yet to hear any ideas that are better than crowd funding.

Blue

Have you talked to Big O, Bluestone? He got his revitalised 'Sandra West' funded in advance to get it made via public donation/pre-payments

I think to prepay it should be for a custom vid . We are all getting a deal that way . I like the idea of getting
your money back if it's not made . I am just interested in the heroines and some white angle . I did contribute
to the crowd funding vid ,the one with the sexy prime ! I can't wait for that one to be made ! But i think if you do
that it should be one at a time . I would like it if you let some of us write an episode like a contest . It has to stick
with your story line and have that crowd funded and the winner gets it free or at a discount !

Some good ideas guys. Keep them coming!

xj900uk wrote:Have you talked to Big O, Bluestone? He got his revitalised 'Sandra West' funded in advance to get it made via public donation/pre-payments

I have followed Big O and will probably do something similar. Reaching out to the general public seems the only option for crowd funding, because there's just not enough interest or funds in the fetish market to finance these productions, even if we just did one at a time.

Blue

OK thanks, I'll watch your space to see what happens. You know I will always back your productions. I'd also love to help work on them in any way I can, for free, to reduce your costs.

What makes the superheroine videos more costly to make than, say, the White Angel videos? If it's special effects, like the glowing sword in the last Blackbird video, those should be forgone. Bluestone's strengths have always been directing, acting, camera work, and plot. Those are what make Bluestone videos worth buying.

samb55 wrote:What makes the superheroine videos more costly to make than, say, the White Angel videos? If it's special effects, like the glowing sword in the last Blackbird video, those should be forgone. Bluestone's strengths have always been directing, acting, camera work, and plot. Those are what make Bluestone videos worth buying.

No, it's not the special effects. It's the quality of the production and the costs of these first rate actresses. A full crew costs money, whereas we can shoot all in one room (location) with a skeleton crew and shave off substantial costs. The result will be a drop in the production values, but we are looking at all of these options. We simply have to re-tool and set up future productions in a way that they will pay for themselves... one way or the other.

Once our November shoot in over, we'll be making some decisions and reporting them here.

Blue

I would like Bluestone to remain exactly as it is - though of course I realize that you can't keep doing that without at least breaking even.

Bluestone is pretty unique I feel - it has a level of realism I like, you don't force the sexual peril aspect (which is available from multiple other produces) and your films are the closest to TV/Film quality of all the producers out there.

I contributed to both of your crowd funding pleas, as a commentator said above I didn’t do it happily; I did it because I wanted those two films to be released.
I really think you should consider a monthly subscription based service, such as Patreon. I would be happy to subscribe, with the understanding that, for example, a film would be released every month or two months for a chunk of the year (basically your release schedule for the past year or so).

You could have different perks for different funding levels - for example, a discount on the released film at the lowest level ($5 a month), a discount and behind the scenes footage at the next level ($10 a month), the film is free at the next level ($20 a month), etc.
The top level of subscriber (say... $30 or $40 a month) could be allowed access to a special forum for the top level subscribers where they could make suggestions/run polls on elements to be included in future videos - to borrow an element from your crowd funding.
That way the people who are heavily invested in you as a producer can do our part to help you keep going, and the folks who just like to buy your films and not engage beyond that (which of course is absolutely fine!) can carry on just buying the films as they are released.

Just my two cents – I really like your films, and I want them to continue!

Bluestone wrote:

samb55 wrote:What makes the superheroine videos more costly to make than, say, the White Angel videos? If it's special effects, like the glowing sword in the last Blackbird video, those should be forgone. Bluestone's strengths have always been directing, acting, camera work, and plot. Those are what make Bluestone videos worth buying.

No, it's not the special effects. It's the quality of the production and the costs of these first rate actresses. A full crew costs money, whereas we can shoot all in one room (location) with a skeleton crew and shave off substantial costs. The result will be a drop in the production values, but we are looking at all of these options. We simply have to re-tool and set up future productions in a way that they will pay for themselves... one way or the other.

Once our November shoot in over, we'll be making some decisions and reporting them here.

Blue

Thanks for replying! As I think back, many of my favorites of your superheroine videos were done in small sets, like Superkick vs Wonderkick and Supernova 4.