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[Bluestone]

Chris may be back into production, but his FF advertising account has been suspended until he makes restitution for monies taken from a customer and fellow producer without providing the custom ordered. An email has been sent to Chris in this regard. He is still a member here and is free to plead his cause, but until this matter is resolved, FF Administration will not be endorsing his products. Customer complaints are taken very seriously at FF. We are producer friendly, but consumer supportive. Health issues have no bearing whatsoever on a producer's obligations. If a producer cannot follow through with his or her contract, the customer's payment should be immediately and cheerfully refunded. There is absolutely no excuse for not doing so!

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P.S. This issue of Chris' FF producer advertising status will be continued on a new thread at the All Topic Forum, so that this thread can return to the subject matter of 'Shooting Vids'.

[sateliteFF]

I generally agree with smudger about breast hits. We need well done nipple shots. And better aiming at breasts.
(The example with the new Chris Corner vid is, to me at least, more like a chest/heartshot, than a breastshot. I might still like it though since I like that kind too.)
I understand that they are hard to make. Making an erect nipple "disappear" and fake a hole in the center of aerola.

But there are few really good breastshootings around. And another thing I might ad, and you might get angry with me for saying it: Breastshots need to be placed in nice sized breasts, don't have to be very large, but she must have bigger boobs than me. Unless its customspecific please don't cast tinybreasted girls for breastshootings. Well it simply won't work for me. Breastshot or not.
Have seen vids, with 2 or more girls, where the big breasted girl gets shot in the head, and the tinybreasted girl gets shot in the breasts. What a waste. The opposite would have worked with me. Don't like headshots, but if you must include a headshot or bellyshot or any other shot, spare the big boobs for the boobkill. Just my opinion.
I could go on and on but I better stop for now. Just remember I write this to inform you producers about what makes me buy a clip.
Cheers
Satelite

[smudger]

Yo, Satelite, I knew I couldn't be the only one!

I think I know the one you mean there- Rival Gang Shootout? Some little girl with less than what I've got gets shot in the tits. While the gang leader- with the most impressive chest on view in the clip- is shot in the HEAD? I thought, NO!! this can't be happening!!

Still haven't completely forgiven you for that one JohnM!

[Max5s]

Well I'm sitting here scratching my chin and thinking, "We could do that." Not only could, but will. Not every time, but certainly a lot more.

I'm referring to Anne's Dreams/Annabelle's Fantasy. Crista and Judit come to mind as candidates that fit the profile.

Yes. We CAN.

[Tkiller]

I am another one that waits patiently for direct hits. While I don't think it is any harder to do than anywhere else, because, I prefer the shots with clothes on. Even if you are close with clothes on, it will look good enough for me to buy. I have been bugging producers for years, and the original video with Petra getting shot in both while wearing a bra was my story idea which Annabelle's Fantasy kindly did for me. They did a few after that as well.
Paul of KHP was great for following through with my ideas and requests. I much prefer clothing on than nudity. My actual favourite is shot in a white bra. Blue then did "Mr. Bullseye" from my suggestions,, thank you very much !!!! I see some really good looking stuff by PKF recently, that is close enough that I will probably be buying soon. Have taken a bit of a hiatus from purchasing the past few months. Am about to send money to Nicheclips to begin purchasing.
Another good target for me would even be directly below the nipple. There are lots above the nipple line. There was one great one in Diamonds and Death where the girl in a pink sweater gets hit in the underside of her breast.

[sateliteFF]

Yo, Smudger,
I only wish more people would speak up! Well that clip you mention could be a good example of what I mean, but I have seen several clips made that way. By several producers.
Its too bad. But we speak up now and some producers might learn that this subject matters to breastshootingfans "out there".

And Max5s I will certainly look forward to that
I hope you will make topless shots or if dressed when shot then at least undress them afterwards
Do you think you can produce videos with wellmade direct nippleshots? If so, I'll be watching

One thing more, to me it is important that the angle of the shot is directed towards the heart so a nippleshot is not just a nipple shot. On many girls a direct frontal shot in the nipple would not be fatal because the nipples are out to the sides. Its really quite obvious, but I'll say it anyway. If you wanna shoot a girl in the nipple, and hit the heart, you need to fire from an angle. It matters to me. A realism thing. Realism in fetish is a funny thing, as some things need to be realistic and others don't.

Tkiller, glad you speak up even if we disagree on the clothing part... The more we are, the heavier the voice.

[JohnM]

I am sure the reasons for various shot placements with other producers vary.

I know with me, there is always an exact reason. On some, it is where the customs customer wanted the placement. Other times, it might be where I personally wanted to see the girl shot. I love shots to the breast...but, sometimes the scenario has me shooting her in other areas. While breasts fetishists will always want simular placement...I am not always making the movies for just one group. There are center-chest fans, belly hit fans, there is one guy who is a through the leg fan, another that likes odd hits--side and back, still another group that like head-shots--another personal favorite of mine.

So, I tend to be diverse. Shootings through clothing are as common as shooting without. I have lots and lots of breast shots---but more often then not, they are in combination with other hit points.

But believe me, every time I start the process of placing a bullet wound on a lovely actress, or torching a hole through her clothes---I am acutely aware of the placement.

That being said, always--always in my previews I have 25-50 high quality, sharp photos that represent each and every major and some minor fetish points. So, when you look at one of my shooting movies, you will know where I shot her before you buy.

Thanks,
JohnM

[sateliteFF]

Hi JohnM
I'm not surprised. Of course you place the bulletwounds carefully. If I was a producer I would do the same. Its not just pleasure, but also business, right?
This is also why I would like people who agree with me (and Smudger and Tkiller) to speak up.
What I want to say is that a shot close to shoulder or in the perimeter of the breast might be technically a "breastshot" but won't be satisfying to me or "us" breastshootingfans if I may say so. So if you JohnM or any other producers are doing a breastshot please bear the above in mind.
You have a lot of wishes to implement, but not everyone can be made happy every time. We are aware of that
Yes JohnM, you have excellent previews! Unlike some other producers who might produce a good clip, but won't sell it because I won't take the chance, as I don't know what happens in the clip. Details are very important. I never buy a clip if I cant see exactly what happens.

Apart from wound location, the reaction and expression of the model(s) is also something that could be varied. An interesting poll on DS on this subject show at least 3 preferred expressions, and still I find that the majority of clips fokus on just fear and begging for life. Same wound location, different reaction. Big potential.
Ok that might be a whole new discussion.

Satelite

[Max5s]

And Max5s I will certainly look forward to that
I hope you will make topless shots or if dressed when shot then at least undress them afterwards Do you think you can produce videos with wellmade direct nippleshots? If so, I'll be watching

I will certainly try. Our next scheduled filming session is in December, and I will see what I can do. It will take a little while after that to get it (or maybe them) in the line-up.

[sateliteFF]

I'll certainly be looking forward to that!
Please remember to think about the angle of the shot.
Cheers
Satelite

[Peter]

Chiming in late here, sorry. I've been away for over a month.

I am a fetishist myself, having a fetishistic preference for an exact placement for wounds (centerline lower belly). So I tend to understand how important it is for others that their placement preference be nailed. Getting it 'close' to that special spot is nowhere near as gratifying as nailing it dead on. As a producer, I am rather naturally interested in pleasing the largest audience possible, and so I 'always' nail at least one of those special spots in every shooting/stabbing video/photoset, and often nail more than one.

The way I figure it is that while there are many who just want to see a woman shot or stabbed and who don't have any specific preference for an exact spot, given that they have no preference, it should not bother them if the bullet goes right through the center of the nipple. But if I put it a bit to one side, it will most definitely bother a lot of those who are specifically hoping for a nipple shot. Now certainly there will be those who are bothered by the monotony of it, that they would prefer to see different placements just for variety's sake. The problem is that such videos will be largely ignored, certainly not purchased, by those who want specific placement.

Usually what I have done if trying to mix it up so as to hit other locations is that they will get shot/stabbed multiple times, and at least one of those special spots will always get nailed at some point in any shooting/stabbing video I produce.

[Tkiller]

You did a great job hitting those targets Peter !! I purchased quite a few of your videos just for the nipple shots. While there were no real special effects involved, the acting of the lovely ladies made them great.

[Peter]

I never did a lot with special effects. I discovered quickly that spending a couple hours doing effects did not affect the sales of the video one bit, so there was little point to doing them other than artistic for purely personal reasons. So I learned to concentrate my efforts on decent acting and editing instead, as those were much easier to do.

[Sandi]

I surely do not represent the mainstream for breast-shot Purchasers, but as a Woman enjoying playing OUT a shooting fantasy and as a minority Purchaser, I do not want the mental image of a 'destroyed' nipple or navel, though when playing alone I feel it directly into the navel mostly, as my 'penetration canal'.

Maybe this picture explains it, a nice manip done by Bellystabs here for me from an avatar I used at PP. It's been suggested that I use this here.....lol.....I promised Blue I'd send him a 'few' choices and then 'we' would decide.....LOL. Typical woman, let the Man believe he's in control, you know.....

I enjoy holding my belly, and I enjoy as in this picture encasing the soft underside of my breast with a palm as the fingers slide around....and obviously squeeeeeeeze.....the nipple itself, so I can't squeeze a nipple that's been obliterated or destroyed....lol.

But, again, I surely understand what you guys are saying about 'right through the nipple', that sure makes sense to me even if not the imagery I choose to use.

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Or maybe this one of a woman everyone knows:

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If it's through clothing, I have no problem with nipple effects, I guess, because I just 'feel' various shots to the 'softness' with no direct correlation to actual nipple. I'm just one who frequently uses 'screen shots' on my computer to be viewing as I am personally playing some scenario out in front of the computer.......or as I used to do far more often than I have been doing now, I would print an enlarged color picture from my files and tape it to the wall behind the couch in my home office and view it while I 'played', either AS that woman getting it, or playing myself against that woman as I imagined she 'acted' with me.

Of course, this image from whatever movie works for me, also :

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As Peter welllllll knows, I'm a navel person 'at heart' as it were, and again while playing a scene alone I will have 'something' poking into my navel that I 'pull in a bit' during the 'instrokes'.....LOL.....well, to SOME this is like SEX, I hear!..........but when viewing a picture and playing I will choose to view a picture like the possible avatar above, where the navel is still preserved for my view and not destroyed.

Just one Woman's personal fantasy fling thoughts, though again I really enjoy hearing what you guys feel, and you are by far the largest Purchaser group, so there are no complaints coming from here....lol.

It's just always cool for me, now as 13 years ago when starting with some of you online such as Max5s, to hear how we each internalize images and sexual and sensual and erotic thoughts in slightly different ways, yet of course we're all headed to the same 'location' of sexual release/nirvana/ecstasy.

We're a fascinating bunch, we People are, and every single time that someone else explains THEIR turn-on, as has been done in this thread, I 'get it', I understand it.

And that's only enhanced my own 'preferences' and expanded them over the years.

Ten years ago I'd never 'die' to a breast shot; now, while I love TONS of locations and aspects, being shot twice and holding my belly with one hand while cupping and squeezing a breast with the other, has come to be......rather 'be-cumming' for me......very 'be cumming'.

Same is true with adding 'leg shots' or 'shoulder shots' to 'weaken me'......or, in sexual terms, to begin 'the surrender' with 'wounds'....it's never the area of the body itself for me that is the most important, I guess....it's the mental 'place' during my sexual cycle that each penetration represents, per the scene and its parameters.

I never said it was all anything but a purely sexual metaphor for me.....if it's a multiple-bullet scene, each bullet represents a 'step' along that wondrous path to climaxes.

So I enjoy it 'in the back' also, though usually that would not be the 'finisher' for me. I'm sure you get the idea. I won't bore anyone with more of this sexual talk. This is an Adult Forum, after all, and I'm sure no one cums here to discuss or hear about....sex.

Anyway, somehow, the amalgamation that all the Producers put out there, gives me plenty of 'what I enjoy'!

Sandi

[Pennpaul]

Is it time for the pitched battle regarding "bulls-eye" hits.

In my book where the bullet hits is up to the shooter. However, on stage it is up to the make-up artiste. Y'all have a good set of commentaries if the producer, director and make-up artiste are one and the same.

Myself, I make up my mind as I approach the victim. Best solution has always been that "one is never enough..."

Now I pose this gem for y'all to discuss

When shot in the back, where should the bullet exit the victim when seen on the video.

Examples
DrDon's HAT TRICK
HVT - IF I CAN'T HAVE YOU ....

4p