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Algenon5 said: After posting the Black Cat posters, I remembered another
major childhood turn-on, the Jo-Jo comics. A glance at the
attached covers should be enough to explain why.

absolutely, yes hot bod but i luv her hair style and overall facial features

she has that Barbara Steele-esque look to her - which is the face that has stuck with me 4 years. anyone c the connection now

My first memory of a movie female death scene that turned me on was from "Hercules" with Lou Ferrigno, when Cerce is shot with a laser bolt by the mechanical centaur.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... q_QQ#t=12s

The next female death scene that stands out prominently in my mind was when Jill Ireland is shot in the back by a sniper in "Love and Bullets".

In both cases, I was hoping to see the women killed. This left my young mind feeling as if I somehow had influence over the course of action in these movies!

The following is a "Rocket Ranger" PC game ad I found in a video game guide mag I got back in 1989. It was a vivid, full page layout, and the voluptuous, raven-haired damsel/heroine pictured provided me with many hours of death fantasies over the years...until my mom decided to throw out all my older magazines. (I never saw it again until I had access to the internet a decade later.) The third screen shot from the left, particularly, helped fuel my imagination. (And yes, I'm sure the game directly ripped off Dave Stevens' "The Rocketeer" graphic novels.) I still love the pinup style of the heroine and the 40's sci-fi serial/cliffhanger atmosphere of the artwork.

Indrid Cold wrote:I'm not sure if cliched plot devices like "it was all a dream" makes comics more sophisticated...

The sexy depictions of Black Cat and Jo-Jo seem a bit provocative to have been targeted at 9 to 13-year-olds! And really, unless it aroused his hormones, what boy that age would want to read about a female hero? (The only way I would have touched a Wonder Woman or Supergirl comic at that age, would have been to ogle their bodies!) Girls still have cooties when we are that age!

Indrid, I won't ask how old you are, but I will say how nearly impossible it is
for today's under-sixty adults to visualize how utterly different the '40s were
from the present, how limited the access to media was compared to today
and how utterly different that media was. ("Captain Midnight" and "Jack
Armstrong the All-American Boy" on the radio; Roy Rogers and Hop-a-long
Cassidy Saturday matinee westerns when you were lucky There was no
adult media - even for adults. In another thread I alluded to the uproar over
the word "damn'" in "Gone With the Wind.")

I grew up on the cusp of Greenwich Village on Manhattan's lower west side -
far from being a sheltered environment by the standards of the day. Yet my
ten-year-old granddaughter, who lives in a semi-rural, upper-middleclass CT
neighborhood is incredibly more sophisticated and knowledgeable than I was
at her age.

Yes, girls had cooties! …er, at least that's what we told each other in public.
Private thoughts were a different matter. A hell of lot more nine-year-old ogling
went on than you might imaging. My first remembered ogling experience (at age
eight or nine) was during a school assembly program when older girls appeared
in abbreviated, satin majorette costumes and marched around to the music of
John Philip Susa. WHAT A TURN ON! Unsophisticated we might have been,
but you can't keep a good hormone down.

Al

eyes110 wrote:Algenon5 said: After posting the Black Cat posters, I remembered another
major childhood turn-on, the Jo-Jo comics. A glance at the
attached covers should be enough to explain why.

absolutely, yes hot bod but i luv her hair style and overall facial features

she has that Barbara Steele-esque look to her - which is the face that has stuck with me 4 years. anyone c the connection now

Ah yes, delicious Barbara Steele, whose real voice was heard in
only one film. That's what happens to a good British girl who opts
for an Italian film career.

I can't remember the title of the film in which she is actually heard,
but I seem to recall it was non-horror.

Al

I wanted to be one of the women in the detective magazines from the 70s-early 80s

I'm 31, Algenon.

I know the 40's were a lot different from today - that's why I'm surprised a comic with a scantily-clad heroine was targeted at 9 to 13-year-old boys back then!

Kids today may be more sophisticated when it comes to sexuality, but, in my experience, they are dolts when it comes to common wisdom.

And yeah, while I always acted like I wasn't the least bit interested in the opposite sex, I had lots of crushes. My favorite childhood TV series was "Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future". Jennifer "Pilot" Chase was the lone female of the team, and I always acted like "Why do they have to have a stupid girl on this manly show!" Secretly, though, I had a big crush on her!

For me, I'd say it was a combination of things. My earliest experiences were a few KO/pain scenes in the Spider-Man cartoon and Pokemon of all things, Power Rangers, and of course Sailor Moon and DBZ. After that came Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil 2, and Aeris' death scene in Final Fantasy 7.

Indrid Cold wrote:Kids today may be more sophisticated when it comes to sexuality, but, in my experience, they are dolts when it comes to common wisdom.

Very true. Today's kids are vastly more hip to the ways of the world, but they certainly aren't any "smarter."

Al

Princess Allura from Voltron (the first cartoon I remember watching) may very well have been the first female I had the vaguest of death fantasies about, though I think I had a crush on her more than anything else.

That was a show I watched just to see if she'd get KOed in any given episode. Beautiful girl, even better in sleepy land!

Maybe I saw the wrong anime, but what I have see left me flat,
finding the animation style to be rather tedious. Then again,
maybe it's just a generational thing.

Al

The American import of Voltron was extremely expurgated. The original Japanese version contained many deaths (including Sven, who is only "injured" in the US adaptation), graphic violence and gore, and even nudity!

Sounding like I'm older than some of you, my earliest memory was a 60's police show (I don't remember if it was "Naked City", "The Detectives", or maybe even "77 Sunset Strip") where (I've told this before here, so I'll be brief) a female security guard gets strangled while the strangler's partner trashes file cabinets looking for blueprints. Two powerful impulses were started that day, a woman in uniform ( heck it was only a classic woman's blouse with security guard patches on both shoulders) the strangulation, which was only seconds, and noiseless ( pretty lame by todays standards) burned it's way into my mind, it's still there, still in glorious black and white, even today.
Second, The Egdar Wallace "krimis" "The Hunchback of Soho" and the original cut of "The Monk With the Whip" (known here as the "College Girl Murders") Both had similar scenes where a policewoman is strangled with phone cords. The scene from the "Monk With the Whip" ( which was better, longer, and more graphic) was cut from American releases, but two friends from Germany confirmed it is still on releases there.
Last, an un-named Italian film where a lady cop "protecting" a witness at a farm house gets gassed, and after tearing open her uniform jacket, tie and shirt, does a face plant in a thick mud puddle. The scene was vocal and stimulating to a teen-aged me.