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I have to say it, I hate shootings and stabbings death fetish they are never realistic (the most unrealistic fetish elements), when you see the heroine disemboweled her hearth with a huge knife and the only thing she transmits is a little cry like she was taking a punch in his stomach...it destroys all the movie.
Only strangulation is worth to watch it because everyone knows it is the only realistic death fetish that erotic sex producers can create.
In fact I prefer watching shootings and stabbings actions on mainstream movies or horror movies, they are more realistic on mainstream.
I bought the members version and I have to say it: the strangulation scene was very great and very fantastic, blue you did a great job in this one ! the camera angle when she is strangled is 100 % perfect with the painfull strangulation scene caught in camera.
If it was a F VS F and a strangle death ending I will buy this video with more than 200 $ or even more !
I like stabbings and shootings. But I must echo the comments from Totallibertarianism. They are consistently badly done. A chest stab is going to get more than a little groan of pain. And the wound/blood effects are very unrealistic. A chest stab is going to produce a lot of blood. The neck stab (both in this video and in the recent Catwarrior 8) could potentially have been great. But both were pretty much ruined by the bad effects. There is no way there would just be a wound on the sides of the neck. This would have a hell of a lot of blood. Pretty sure a bottle of liquid fx blood is very cheap to buy, too.
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While I am a big fan of shooting / stabbing myself. I must also agree to some point. The old Bluestone videos (not these superheroine / UKSG videos), have always been better at doing the shooting or stabbing elements. Even though they use way way less budget. The effects used here are bad, indeed. It'd be much better just with a bit of practical effects, which in all honesty is much cheaper as well. Unless you don't want to put blood on the precious suits, I'm not entirely sure what the deal is there.
I realize that the superheroine productions here focus on other elements, UKSG's old focus has always been strangulation. That's perfectly fine, understandable, and there's a lot of people that enjoy exactly that. So I shouldn't expect anything else.
But I still think to myself, how other video producers with way less budget do the shooting / stabbing way way better than they ever do here. Even Bluestone's old silk videos do. The first obvious difference is not using practical effects and some liquid fx blood like dark_moon above commented. I don't know if that stains the expensive superheroine suits.. or something? But surely if that's the case other video producers wouldn't be doing that themselves.
As I said, I am a fan of shooting. And I have commented many times about this topic in Bluestone's superheroine videos. I already understand and know that I won't be getting what I want. It's not the focus of these videos, it never was in the past, so I know I shouldn't be expecting to ever be. I still buy these Superheroine videos and enjoy the other aspects of the videos, even though the elements I specifically like are never handled properly.
Just chiming in my 2cents on what the members above were saying. And I do agree with them to some extent. I don't agree with the shooting / stabbing scenes having to necessarily be realistic (nothing in the videos is, it's kind of ironic reading people that enjoy a 10 minute sensual strangulation with sexy moaning, saying that the shooting should be "realistic", but to each their own), rather that the effects for it aren't good enough. I'm not a strangulation fan myself, but I still buy these videos, because all the other aspects of them are good.
I just feel if you're going to do shooting or stabbing, look into how other video producers of our communities do it. There's so many that do it fantastic and run a cheap budget. Sure, they likely have way cheaper models than you, and way less production crew, so overall everything is WAY cheaper. But if everything is so much cheaper, how come they're better at handling shooting and stabbing. That's where the problem lies.
I understand it's probably just an issue of doing too many elements, trying to please everyone, etc. Because if you were to use practical effects, you'd have to do clean up and such between scenes to shoot the other version that doesn't have the shooting and such. But I'm sure even though you have 2 different versions of the videos, there's still a way of doing it without much hassle.
Hello Director B, I'm following the discussion, I agree with some criticism and I disagree with others, I also got the video and I would like to give my opinion:
Firstly, I think that with each passing day visually and technically your videos are only improving, it's really exciting to see such beautiful models, such cool scenarios, and everything in HD, for the standards of a "fetishist" video, your movies are with a professional quality, I have only praise for this
As for criticism, I'll agree with colleagues only that the digital effects for shots and stabs are unrealistic, but since I'm much more of a fan of shooting than of strangling, I'd rather you continue with digital effects than removing this element from the videos , I've already commented on this, my problem is not with realism, but with the number of shots, I do not care if the character gets a shot and act like have an stomach pain, I even think it makes sense if the character has super powers and the shots do not cause as much damage to her.
the only thing I would like to see would be a greater amount of shots and blood, and the character more alive and wounded, perhaps by resistance or regenerative powers ... essentially: I like a lot of blood, squibs and resistance, maybe my request is still harder to achieve in the "traditional" way because it would require more fake blood and damage to the costumes, so I do not demand that the wounds are made with makeup and fake blood, CG would be even easier to get an equal scene the ones I would like, however, i up not having either of both, since the injuries are not realistic, but they are also not numerous, so my suggestion is: if the characters will only take 3 shots, it could not be with blood and traditional makeup? but if you can only do CG injuries, can not you get the character to get a dozen shots?
in any case, I want to commend the stabbing scene, I was surprised by the amount of stabbing she took (I hoped it would end with a single stab in the heart as always) was one of the rare times the video came into line with my tastes, although as I think the scene would look even better if they were traditional effects, I like the unexpected amount of injuries, to finish, follows a drawing that more or less demonstrates my idea of what I like in shooting scenes
Hi, everyone, thanks for your views I think Blue doesn't like blood on his actresses, the director of Supernova Doomsayer wanted bloody on Supernova to show how beaten she was but it was overruled by Blue. Also, you are right the only kind of blood you can get is the one that stains which ruin costumes and skin leaving a very hard to remove. The subject of blood really should be addressed to Blue and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer all of your questions. Again thanks for all your comments.
Well the solution is obvious then, Mr B - only do headshots! No need then to worry about blood going on costumes and then Blue ordering you to spend ages slaving over a hot sink scrubbing for all you are worth trying to get it out.
Re showing Supernova getting all bloody from her beating at the hands of Doomsayer, perhaps you should just show a little trickle of red coming out of the corner of her mouth which she gingerly then wipes away with the back of her hand?
Another alternative to shooting superheroines would just be to zapp them with lasers or death rays which don't show any blood (just do a FX affect instead)
Director B wrote:Hi, everyone, thanks for your views I think Blue doesn't like blood on his actresses, the director of Supernova Doomsayer wanted bloody on Supernova to show how beaten she was but it was overruled by Blue. Also, you are right the only kind of blood you can get is the one that stains which ruin costumes and skin leaving a very hard to remove. The subject of blood really should be addressed to Blue and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer all of your questions. Again thanks for all your comments.
Blue doesn't like blood on his actresses? That's strange to hear, considering that all the old silk videos and even the ones he edits and releases nowadays (which I realize are old recordings edited for current day releases) all have practical blood effects.
Surely there is some way around the stain issue. Or do all video producers just use very cheap clothing for their videos?
Director B wrote:Hi, everyone, thanks for your views I think Blue doesn't like blood on his actresses, the director of Supernova Doomsayer wanted bloody on Supernova to show how beaten she was but it was overruled by Blue. Also, you are right the only kind of blood you can get is the one that stains which ruin costumes and skin leaving a very hard to remove. The subject of blood really should be addressed to Blue and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer all of your questions. Again thanks for all your comments.
Blue doesn't like blood on his actresses? That's strange to hear, considering that all the old silk videos and even the ones he edits and releases nowadays (which I realize are old recordings edited for current day releases) all have practical blood effects.
Surely there is some way around the stain issue. Or do all video producers just use very cheap clothing for their videos?
I think Director B was confused by the reference to blood, thinking that the fans were referring to blood from the beatings, not blood from the shootings and stabbings. Obviously, for my silk series, I always used practical blood effects for the wounds, and this does not destroy the facial looks of the actresses. As for the costumes, yes the other producers use cheap costumes and we use expensive custom made costumes for the most part. Practical blood effects both stain and can slow down the production. I am certainly not against using practical blood if it does not increase the costs of the overall productions.
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I liked the wound effects! They were just about right for me! Thank you!
This is not to criticize others who want to see blood flowing. People have different tastes and you can't please everybody every time. I'm glad that Blue made this video the way he did.
If a future video leaves the actress lying in an expanding pool of blood, like Hitchcock did in Topaz (I think! That was a long time ago!), I'll buy it.
Director B wrote:Hi, everyone, thanks for your views I think Blue doesn't like blood on his actresses, the director of Supernova Doomsayer wanted bloody on Supernova to show how beaten she was but it was overruled by Blue. Also, you are right the only kind of blood you can get is the one that stains which ruin costumes and skin leaving a very hard to remove. The subject of blood really should be addressed to Blue and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer all of your questions. Again thanks for all your comments.
Blue doesn't like blood on his actresses? That's strange to hear, considering that all the old silk videos and even the ones he edits and releases nowadays (which I realize are old recordings edited for current day releases) all have practical blood effects.
Surely there is some way around the stain issue. Or do all video producers just use very cheap clothing for their videos?
I think Director B was confused by the reference to blood, thinking that the fans were referring to blood from the beatings, not blood from the shootings and stabbings. Obviously, for my silk series, I always used practical blood effects for the wounds, and this does not destroy the facial looks of the actresses. As for the costumes, yes the other producers use cheap costumes and we use expensive custom made costumes for the most part. Practical blood effects both stain and can slow down the production. I am certainly not against using practical blood if it does not increase the costs of the overall productions.
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Jacktharipper wrote:Hello Director B, I'm following the discussion, I agree with some criticism and I disagree with others, I also got the video and I would like to give my opinion:
Firstly, I think that with each passing day visually and technically your videos are only improving, it's really exciting to see such beautiful models, such cool scenarios, and everything in HD, for the standards of a "fetishist" video, your movies are with a professional quality, I have only praise for this
As for criticism, I'll agree with colleagues only that the digital effects for shots and stabs are unrealistic, but since I'm much more of a fan of shooting than of strangling, I'd rather you continue with digital effects than removing this element from the videos , I've already commented on this, my problem is not with realism, but with the number of shots, I do not care if the character gets a shot and act like have an stomach pain, I even think it makes sense if the character has super powers and the shots do not cause as much damage to her.
the only thing I would like to see would be a greater amount of shots and blood, and the character more alive and wounded, perhaps by resistance or regenerative powers ... essentially: I like a lot of blood, squibs and resistance, maybe my request is still harder to achieve in the "traditional" way because it would require more fake blood and damage to the costumes, so I do not demand that the wounds are made with makeup and fake blood, CG would be even easier to get an equal scene the ones I would like, however, i up not having either of both, since the injuries are not realistic, but they are also not numerous, so my suggestion is: if the characters will only take 3 shots, it could not be with blood and traditional makeup? but if you can only do CG injuries, can not you get the character to get a dozen shots?
in any case, I want to commend the stabbing scene, I was surprised by the amount of stabbing she took (I hoped it would end with a single stab in the heart as always) was one of the rare times the video came into line with my tastes, although as I think the scene would look even better if they were traditional effects, I like the unexpected amount of injuries, to finish, follows a drawing that more or less demonstrates my idea of what I like in shooting scenes
Hi Jacktharipper !....
I totally agreed with your comments...
And i glad to see you here too....
And Director B , i always fan of totally vids of Blue , i love this Ultrawoman , wondra and wonderkick , and there vids are awesome even if I'm more a fan of slasher and serial stabbing and i can(t wait to see this video soon !...
My thoughts on the video align with many here, but it is interesting to see such a diverse set of preferences here. I'm not an asphyx fan, although a well-done one is worth a watch. There's always plenty of strangling time in each of these, so I hope that no one is looking for MORE time spent on that. My preferences are stabbing and silencer shooting, in that order. In this video, the shooting was not as onscreen as I would prefer. As I've stated previously, I would like to see at least 6-8 torso shots, including 2-3 overkill (after death) shots, all onscreen and in skin.This video did not address that, so I won't elaborate. However, the stabbing effect was top-notch. In and out, all onscreen, into bare skin. That was fantastic. Stabbings through clothing can be seen on mainstream video. I agree that there should have been more blood for those size wounds, but I also know that is difficult. The final neck-stab did nothing for me (I hope it did for someone), but I know Blue and the gang are trying to put pieces in here for as many people as possible and I think there were plenty of bases covered. If I were to change this film, I would increase the speed of the stab thrusts to a more realistic speed, and make 6-8 thrusts, with the final 2-3 as overkill onscreen. That would put it over the finish line for me.
For the benefit of xj900uk and others, after the overkill and obvious death, you can still work your magic and have her revive briefly, raise her head, and take a headshot (not my preference). But I'll already have the overkill->death. I needn't watch further.
Finally, of course, Lynda is superb. No question about that. I do agree that she should react more intensely to knife thrusts.
I've no regrets about purchasing this. It will never meet everyone's expectations, but it sure came close to mine.