Is the Death Fantasy Community Imploding???

[Geno]

Max5s--- That's strange, I have dictionary, yet a good portion of those words are still mispelled. I can figure you out Max You are on this board and you post like you are some kind of a push over. A pacifist. Yes when you post on Deadskirts, you really kick butt! You take no crap from nobody. You are very objective and strong, lively and fiesty over there. Over here on FF,I could knock you over with my thumb.

If it's any consolation Max, I will not be calling other actress names like that in the future, and have proposed a new rule that will prevent that. Even people who hate rules will welcome that one. Not so much because I really think actress should be able to take the boos, but becuase it clearly can be used to hurt our producers feelings , and they are members on top that. So relax Max.

Chton--- There you go Chton that-a-boy. I finally was able to smoke the truth out of you. I was getting tired of your negative hints about me, and I wanted to just come out and say what is on your mind. If you think this community would be better off without Bluestone around, then say it. Then say it, don't beat around the bush. If you think the Geno is Liar, stop hinting at it, blurt it out like you did. I figured that I kept hammering at your shell, I would crack it open..and it did. That, coupled with the fact you have never been taught any tact or displine, has resulted in what we are hearing from you Mr. Chton. Now you want to play a new game, by ignoring me? Don't worry, people play the game with me all the time, when they run out of ammuntion. The game is called "Ostrich". Here's how it is played: I continue talking, and you , Mr. Chton will proceed to stick your head in the sand. Fine with me. ........ P.S. Mr. Chton, An important tool of the flame-warrior is to be able to correct grammar without end, for the purpose of harassing another. I took that tool away day one, when DeadSkirts was built, to protect all members, because I was a flame warrior for years.

Sincerely Geno

[Mkkb]

Max5s--- That's strange, I have dictionary, yet a good portion of those words are still mispelled.

Sincerely Geno

HAHAHA...Dude, you are so in over your head. You misspelled "misspelled" Seriously, are you 6 years old? and how much free time do you have? You are spending so much time on these rambling, incoherent posts on these boards. Do you have nothing else going on? I actually feel sad for you. This is probably as good as it gets for you. That really makes me sad.

Junior, it's way past your bed time. Let the adults talk. It's time for you to put the keyboard down and go away for a while. You don't have to smoke anyone out. Most of these posts lately have been about how much better the community would be if you didn't post so much. If you would just fade away.

An important tool of the flame-warrior is to be able to correct grammar without end, for the purpose of harassing another. I took that tool away day one, of when DeadSkirts was built to protect all members, because I was a flame warrior for years.
Sincerely Geno

For years huh? Wow, you have a ton going on, don't ya? Well, we all need hobbies I guess.
Again, I feel very, very sad for you. Now, shouldn't you be going back to DS to edit some members posts or something?

[Geno]

Mkkb--- Speak of the devil. Mkkb I see you just slithered in. Of course I mispelled it. It a full time job, to provide enough misppellletedd words so that those like you who cum over it, can still enjoy it . Now you are man of sewer like me that I can admire. You have had your flame days. You speak your mind where you are on FemmeFatalities or at DeadSkirts. Still I will not say your responsible for the actions of KHP, but you did help to give him a big head, befoe he thought he could get away with murder over there. Thanks for help in smoking him outand I am mean to the door and out!.

Maybe I better check for you on DeadSkirts. If you have called any of our producer's actresses any real bad names lately, I will go back to DS and edited it out Mr. Mkkb. New rule ya know. Now tell me that is a bad rule.

Kevin--- My post to you is buried on the other page Sir. Thanks for you kind contructive critiquette.

Sincerely Geno

[Max5s]

Dear Geno,

I prefer to have the more difficult discussions with you on your own forum. The challenge there is greater due to the fact that you can silence the opposition with your many rules and even shut down the forum and rewrite its history to suit your own needs.

On Blue’s forum or over at PP you’re a sitting duck, albeit one that never stops quacking. One of your faults lies in your inability to recognize when your arguments have been pulverized. On your forum, one can take great amusement in baiting you to see what lame arguments and misdirections you come up with when the chips are down. Let’s see. Recently I was labeled an atheist because I suggested that you didn’t understand the tenets of your own religion and that you failed to recognize something about your own God. Then I was accused of following you around to harass you. That amounted to engaging you repeatedly in ONE thread. Apparently, disagreeing with you and suggesting you were a coward because your solution to quelling discussions is achieved by suspending the participants, constitutes harassment. Just what the fu*k do you think you are doing when you drift out of your element and start polluting the air in other forums? There really is nothing more powerful than the odor of mendacity. Your incessant distortion of the truth and your occasional outright avoidance of it bear the odor of what Tennessee Williams was talking about. You are harassing the members of this forum by engaging in dialog to perpetuate discussion of an issue that is essentially dead.

I would suggest that you take that BB that chton fired at the “aircraft carrier called Deadskirts” and see if you can use it to break the vacuum that exists between your ears. Perhaps it would promote a bit of rationality on your part and a return to the character of the Geno who started Deadskirts with the best interest of the community in mind.

Is that irritating enough?

[Damon]

Geno,

Sorry to butt in, but to put this right. The moderators on PP are not secret, if you click on the administrators or moderators link it gives you a list of the appropriate people, as Janet told you on DS. Just because their board is a different format to yours, and the software operates a different way, it doesn't mean it's any more secretive. Just wanted to put right that falsehood you put up.

Also, does anybody else find it a bit 'disturbing' that Geno always refers to the owners their as the 'gay females'. I know you have a hatred of homosexuality Geno, you've made that clear often enough along with the names you've called them in the past (including the 'c' word included in posts you've deleted), but is their any reason to keep describing them in those terms? They're gay, so what??

General comment - for what it's worth, I think this community is in danger of imploding, and it's all down to one or two people whose ego tells them they can basically ride roughshod over this community, and who think the community is about them rather than the community as a whole. I've never been the most active of posters on the boards, and that's due to those same people, but everywhere I go now it seems to be the same people deciding what they think is best for the particular boards, and dictating to other members. It's a shame, as this community could be excellent, but it is in danger of really going under unless one or two people learn to reign themselves in, stop dictating to other people and, at the end of the day, stop playing games with them and treating them like fools. Rant over.

[Geno]

Perhaps it would promote a bit of rationality on your part and a return to the character of the Geno who started Deadskirts with the best interest of the community in mind.

Hello Max- Believe me I know what you mean. There was diffinately a kinder, softer , geno back in those days who built DeadSkirts. I still have the community's interest in mind Max. It just right now I am caught up in the turmoil and I am taking some time out to slap around a few troublemakers and people who would villify me for things I never did. Theses guys would not know what to do if they did not have a big target like me to take pot shots at and then run away. The troublemakers will soon be out of luck if all goes well with the NEW DeadSkirts. They won't know what to do with a nice Geno.

All hope is not lost Max. It hard for a person to change after his has been so conditioned to dealing with some many problems connected to a full function website. I am going to try real hard Max to go back to the Geno of 2006, with the comming new DeadSkirts sever, website, and high tech message board. Getting fresh start will help. I will be able to look and watch for the first problems or slip ups on my part and correct it, on fresh wide open board. They way to get your points to me is by objectivity and not jumping on the Geno bashing bandwagon like the rest of the rat-packs, Max. I need some time to think this out. Thanks. P.S. take it easy on profanity too. I don't like it.

Damon--- Up to you old tricks again? I knew your explination was hollow when you posted it. As soon as you try to blame the problems on "one" or "two" people in the community, I found everything that followed as having very little merit. I DO NOT believe this community is collapsing, like you do Mr. Damon But if where, just for the sake of argument, It would not come from 1, 2, or even a dozen people. It would have to come from a very large percentage of people in community. On DeadSkirts we sometimes get into some vicious cat and dog fights on the ALL TOPIC board, and right next door, on the Main Fantasy Board, people are interacting and enjoying their fantasies to the fullest Mr. Damon. If anything, DeadSkirts would collapse from having so much conflict right next door. So if a few people on the ALL TOPIC can't even make the rest of one site fall , they surely aren't going to make the whole community of websites fall down.

About those Homosexual females Damon. I used to call them every name in the book after they resigned from DeadSkirts. Then I promised Sedira not to call them names any more. No more cunts, no more dykes. So I went back and edited a dozen post where they were refered to dkyes and cunts. Calling them gay, or homosexual, is not name calling. You're right what difference does it make, anyway. This is not a subject on gays, but I will say this much; The problem I have with gays is that they will often put in your face that they are gay, to get jobs and special rights. Don't pull your gay card out me, Damon. If you are qualified for the job, you get it. Gay or not.

To answer your last question about secret moderators on the rival board, 9 out 10 members of the rival board, can NOT name all the moderators. At that same time 9 out of 10 can name the rival board Owners because their names are in red. If Sedira would answer her e-mail someone could e-mail and find them out, or follow your maze of instructions to some hidden hyperlink that has the list. On DeadSkirts we have only 2 moderators and everybody knows who they are, because their name are highlighted on each section of board, and their avatars reflect it too. No secret or hidden links to follow on DeadSkirts. I don't care what Janet told me. I am talking about the rest of the members not knowing. So there.

Geno

[Bluestone]

Geno,

Sorry to butt in, but to put this right. The moderators on PP are not secret, if you click on the administrators or moderators link it gives you a list of the appropriate people, as Janet told you on DS. Just because their board is a different format to yours, and the software operates a different way, it doesn't mean it's any more secretive. Just wanted to put right that falsehood you put up.

Also, does anybody else find it a bit 'disturbing' that Geno always refers to the owners their as the 'gay females'.

Yes, Damon, as a member of this community, I find that disturbing also. I think we should treat everyone in this community with respect and that includes NOT labeling them, such as the general public labels us as weirdos or worse. I've never believed that two wrongs make a right. I.M.H.O., if we want to be respected, we must respect others... even if they run a rival message board.

For the record, although Geno may consider PP to be a rival board to DS, I do not feel that either PP or DS are rivals of FF. All three boards are a part of the general erotic death fetish community, and their owners are simply members of that community, and should not consider themselves controllers of that community. That is why I started this topic, and that is why I continually invite opposing comments to my own. This is a discussion board, and, by it's very definition, it should be open to all opinions, but those opinions should be respectfully expressed. We are all adults here, so we should be able to handle that without 100 rules and heavy-handed enforcement of them.

All of which is respecfully submitted.

Blue

[Damon]

Response to Geno....

See, this is a perfect example of the problems and I just knew I'd get this sort of response.

Up to my old tricks again? What tricks? The only conversation I have ever had with you is recently on DS where I tried to clarify the problem with KHP, which you did. You brought up PP on that conversation as well (a recurring bugbear of yours methinks) and, as I said, I didn't agree with your methods, but that is as far as that went. Here I have just given my honest opinion, as designated by Bluestone, yet you accuse me of tricks. Sorry to say, that's typical of you from what I have read.

Also, what gay card am I playing? I just questioned your constant mentioning of it as regards the owners of PP (who, by the way, have never been 'in your face' about it at all). So, can I ask, what gay card do you think I am playing here, especially considering you yourself have just admitted it has nothing to do with this subject (but that hasn't stopped you adding your extra comments on there, which are equally unnecessary), so you are agreeing with me. By the way, I agree with you about who is most fit for a job should get it whatever, but who here is saying anything else otherwise? Have Sadie or Sedira ever said that? What the hell has it got to do with anything?

Next, hidden hyperlink on PP? You mean the one at the bottom of the main view saying 'Global Moderators'....like the one on this very board???? Also, as regards the '9 out of 10 people on PP can't name the moderators'....have you actually asked them?

Basically, as I hope people can see, I put forward a perfectly reasonable POV as regards the subject, and received an aggressively toned response from Geno which also contained language designed to, for want of a better phrase, 'look down' on my POV, containing misrepresentations and putting forward situations which just aren't the case. Welcome to 'Geno World'.

I do notice that when somebody takes an opposing view that you take this tack, try to put forward the view that opposing views are so ridiculous, it's a classic 'bullying' method. It's basically what you try to be Geno, a bully. Opposing views seem to frighten you, unnerve you, so you counter by putting the relevant poster down, callling them names, telling them they have issues (eg anger or burnout issues). Well, it won't work with me Geno, I've seen and dealt with people like you before. Argue away but, as I said, I hope people can see the tone Geno has taken with me, totally unwarranted from my original message (and, at times, totally irrelevant).

[Damon]

Yes, Damon, as a member of this community, I find that disturbing also. I think we should treat everyone in this community with respect and that includes NOT labeling them, such as the general public labels us as weirdos or worse. I've never believed that two wrongs make a right. I.M.H.O., if we want to be respected, we must respect others... even if they run a rival message board.

For the record, although Geno may consider PP to be a rival board to DS, I do not feel that either PP or DS are rivals of FF. All three boards are a part of the general erotic death fetish community, and their owners are simply members of that community, and should not consider themselves controllers of that community. That is why I started this topic, and that is why I continually invite opposing comments to my own. This is a discussion board, and, by it's very definition, it should be open to all opinions, but those opinions should be respectfully expressed. We are all adults here, so we should be able to handle that without 100 rules and heavy-handed enforcement of them.

All of which is respecfully submitted.

Blue [/color][/size]

Thanks Bluestone, and totally agree with your comments. Maybe Geno will accuse you of playing the 'gay card' as well though.....

[Mkkb]

There was diffinately and kinder softer geno back in those days

I still to have the community intrest in mind Max.

It jus right now I am caught up in the turmoil and I am taking some time out to slap around a few trouble makers and people who would villify me for things I never did.

I am going to try real hard Max to go back to the Geno of 2006, with the comming new DeadSkirts sever, website, and high tech message board.

I knew your explination was hollow again when you posted. much conflict right next door. So a few people on the ALL TOPIC can't even make the rest of the site fall , they surely are going to make the whole community of websites fall.

So I went back and deleted dozens post where they were refered to dkyes and cunts.


Sincerley Geno

You have to be kidding me...Is spelling that tough? You own a website and can't spell? Just try a little, would ya? Just make an attempt, then maybe, just maybe someone may take you seriously...
By the way--
diffinately --- definitely
intrest --- interest
jus --- just
villify --- vilify
comming --- coming
explination -- explanation
refered -- referred
Sincerley -- Sincerely
Pathetic == Geno

[Bluestone]

This is not a subject on gays, but I will say this much; The problem I have with gays is that they will often put in your face that they are gay, to get jobs and special rights. Don't pull your gay card out me, Damon. If you are qualified for the job, you get it. Gay or not.

Geno, your statement is offensive, because you are stereotyping a group of people and attributing actions that a few of that group may (or may not) do to the entire group. That is profiling, and I personally equate it with prejudice. If you see nothing wrong with this statement, my friend, then I'd consider that you calm down, take a few deep breaths, forget for a moment the attacks that you are perceiving being leveled against you, and re-consider your comments. I think the kinder, gentler Geno of old will have to admit that this is an unfair statement.

Blue

[Geno]

Stay on the sidelines and Take it with a grain of salt Bluestone.

Bluestone---Nothing you hear on this thread should disturbing to you Bluestone as I am expressing MY opinion. Don't use it to give into the pressure to join the DeadSkirts bashing bandwagon. You of all people know the boards are different. You have almost as many rules as DeadSkirts, only one big difference, ours rule are put in writting like the California vehicle code. When that other rule gets written to protect actors, it will say something to the effect of needless and vicious calling the actress of a DS producers names or trashing him or her will not be allowed." Don't knock any rules that you are going to benefit from Mr. Bluestone...or I will really tell what I think of Suzi Leigh! and Petra Morgan. If I really do tell you what I think of your two actresses, you are not going to say you find it disturbing...you are going say....." I don't believe you geno..you just tugging on leg! So don't get serious when I am dealing with anti-ds members.

Seriously Mr. Bluestone..., Only Max, minus his foul language, Kevin67 and Maybe shootingmad are the 3 persons on this thread who are looking at the situation objectively as it connects to me. If you don't believe me just ask Max5s. He will tell you this, "Geno may have close to 200 rules on DeadSkirts , but that is NOT Geno's problem. The rules don't bother Max. He will tell I can keep the rules. Geno needs a change in proceedures and to soften up and be nicer!"---- A would be Max. He did not make the point sucessfully with me by bashing my website. So ease up a little. You barking up the wrong tree on things I don't even stand-by.

Also remember Bluestone, eveyone knows I am expressing MY opinion, not your's. That should be a given on this thread. There is a lot of button pushing, staw doggging, sarcasm, grandstanding, sandbagging, and chest thumping. So there is nothing to be distrubed about ,and you don't take everything you hear as the truth when someone is in war of words, my friend.

Damon--- I gave your answers. Ask the people of that "other board" to give you list of the the moderator. 9 or 10 don't know where to find that at. It's not fair for you test me on things..YOU just learned yourself Mr. Damon from Janet. You clearly said that All moderators are highlighted in red, and you were wrong! It takes information about about following a series of links to find who they are. End of story.

Mkkb--- Very good Mkkb thank you for correcting my spelling. Let's try that again. Correct this one " I gott somethang you can suck on Mr. Mkkb" . Or maybe you can correct this one "Slobb on the Knobb". See if you can correct those two statements with spelling errors within them. Come on ...you can do.... it.



Geno

[kevin67]

Hi,

Geno,Geno, Geno, I can see I am too late to really be able to change your behavior and
I am truly disappointed. You haven't the foggiest notion what I was talking about when
I mentioned about harmony, and tolerance among the three boards. Peace and quiet will never exist on the boards as long as you are around. Noone expects perfection out of you but we do expect normal human behavior.

As far as this thing about gay and dykes etc.you have to realize these are terms depicting sexual preferences not names. I don't call Damon or Blue, Heterosexual
Blue or Heterosexal Damon. Do you see how silly that sounds? I was hoping that I could
persuade you to call the two ladies running the show at PP female managers or female
moderators, anything but what you do call them. You have been ranting and raving
about PP since it began and what has it gotten you? Zilch, zero, nothing. The sun rises
and sets and PP is still there. Live with it sir. It's called tolerance.

You say you are going to change when you get the new board. Why wait till then?
In my opinion, it is too late for you anyway. Putting up a new board is not going to wipe out the present day Geno. You can't take a zebra, paint it all white or roan, and sell it as a horse.
It's still a zebra.

I would make one respectful request that you wash your dirty laundry (these so called
debates) on your own site and quit stinking up ours. You have offered little in the way of
the death fetish while you are here just more hate and discontent.

PS. Do not bother to even give your usual replies to this because, like Pontius Pilate,
I am washing my hands of you. Good luck in the future, I think you are going to need it.

Sincerely Kevin67

[Geno]

Kevin67--- Thank you, anyway for your earlier attempt at objectivity. Looks like you lost it again. Kevin you don't understand that community as whole does not hold any grudges. Niether do I. They are extremely forgiving as a whole. You can take anyone in our community, the most vicious troublemaker like Manoir/Superid....a stalker like The "stabbing guy," and as soon as he, or she, straightens up and get back on a clean track, he will gather friends and supporters. It much easier for me to make a deals, because I have something that thousands want. You would be amazed. This is not the first time I have gotten a few low ratings with so many troublemaker climbing up my back, and I swat them off one by one. You stamp of "too late" doesn't mean a hill of beans, Kevin.

How many times have you heard, Mr. Kevin67, "Ok I,m glad that's over not let's get back to the fantasy of Killing sexy women like Petra, and Suzi"?? Doesn't sound like the person is holding a grude like you are planning on doing. The ratio of forgiving members to grude holders like yourself is about 150 to 1 Kevin. You haven't got a chance of starting a mass exodus from DeadSkirts based on your misguided, unfair beliefs about me Sir.

No matter what infraction I have commited in the past, in the years of 2005-2008, as soon as time and amends are made people start comming back up to me and we are friends. Even Bluestone will tell you, that I hold no grudges. Eveybody here is welcome to join new DeadSkirts, even Shootingmad. Not everyone like you holds grudges Kevin67. Hasn't Bluestone told you at least a hundred times, that it does not pay to hold grudges. You know he right. I am sure the community as hold will back me up. They always have. It a proven consistant guarantee given. I am not talking about you Kevin67 who may has scribbled in his little note book. "Don't give Geno a chance." I am talking about the 100 other people I can replace you with, for every one of you grude-holders out there, that have a big problem with giving any member of our community a chance.

Mr. Kevin67, If I think that psychologically ,that a new website, new board, will give me that fresh start I am looking for, then even you Kevin know how powerful that can be as teacher. Mind over matter ya know.

Sincerely Geno

[Max5s]

The rules don't bother Max. He will tell I can keep the rules.
Geno

I frequently disagree with Geno, but he speaks the truth about my feelings in the lines above. I don't really give a flying you know what about them actually being there, and in reality, some of them should be in place. I've found that they've never prevented me from expressing an opinion.

I do have a problem with how they are applied, and that is where Geno and I clash on the issue of rules.

As for profanity, I think it depends on how it's used. But when I'm at my vituperative best, I prefer to avoid the "bad" words.