There is a beautiful woman who I would not kill!!!

[Bluestone]

I'm curious! I'm dating myself, but I used to absolutely love Barbara Eden in "I Dream of Jeannie", but I couldn't get off on fantasizing about her death. In fact, I didn't want to fantasize about her death. She was absolutely beautiful, so what was my problem? Anyone else have that happen to you?

Blue

[Nightposter]

Farrah Fawcett-
While I may have fantasized about her as Jill Munroe, wearing her LAPD uniform, bound to my bed, waiting for me....I never wanted to kill, no fatal fantasies for her.

[Blue Ribbon]

Ah, ah...I'd strangle Barbara and Farrah with my blue ribbon in my fantasies with total pleasure...

[EvilBilly]

I can sympathize with not wanting to harm the Jeannie character. She was portrayed as very innocent and well-meaning, so it would seem as if one were harming a child. I remember Barbara Eden in other roles, in those scenarios I would have loved to seen her riddled with bullets. I never really enjoyed seeing helpless women getting killed, like in slasher movies. Spies, cops, bad girls, superheroines...those capable of defending themselves are a different story.

[Bluestone]

One suggestion as to why I couldn't visualize killing Barbara Eden in "I Dream of Jeannie" is that the 'Jeannie' fantasy satisfied my needs, so that my necro fantasies became irrelevant. Let me explain. I strongly feel that it's a desire for beautiful women, not a hatred of them, that drives my fantasies. In effect, as a boy, I fantasized that in order to have a beautiful woman like Barbara Eden, I would have to dominate her, i.e. grab her, rape her, eventually kill her. With the "Jeannie" fantasy, this beautiful woman can be called out of a bottle or put back in the bottle, whenever her 'master' wants. She idolizes her master. She would do anything for him, including sex. Perhaps, this fantasy became my ultimate fantasy, relegating my necro fantasies to second place. Think about it. Let's say you had Petra, or whoever your favourite babe is, at your beck and call. She would do anything for you. She would call you master, and offer her body freely to you. Would you still kill her in your fantasies? Now, I'm not trying to psychoanalyze our fetish to death (pun intended), but these thoughts do interest me. What is more powerful in your fantasies, a 'Jeannie' type fantasy, or an erotic death fetish fantasy? I assume that those into bondage would enjoy a 'Jeannie' type fantasy even more than I. Thoughts?

Dr. Blue

[bellystabs]

But how about her Evil Twin Sister? http://chud.com/articles/content_images/17/Jeannie5.jpg

My story seems a bit similar: as a boy I could never have the girl I saw on TV or in Playboy magazine. But just as I reached puberty, my dad died and I saw the original Psycho movie. From that point on my fantasy always revolved around all the pretty actresses in a movie, or models in a magazine. As far as I can remember, when the "mood" was right, none of them were off limits, including Jeannie and Mary Ann!

I remember when I was a young teenager I lived on my uncle's farm. I would tear out a centerfold and sneak back in the woods where I tied "her" up to a tree and used her as target practice for my .22 rifle. Later when I got a bow and arrow, I stuck her on a bale of hay and fired away. I was always afraid of getting caught. I thought I must be Richard Speck deep inside (his family had a farm nearby).

Then I started dating and found out how warm and soft and fun real live girls were! At the time I couldn't understand why I was so drawn to this erotic fantasy life. I never wanted to really "do it" to any real girl, especially the pretty girl I was dating or trying to date. So I learned to live with my Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde dichotomy. And here I am 40 years later enjoying all the terrific productions that Blue and Paul and Peter and John and Don (etc) create for our pleasure (viewing and otherwise).

[Peter]

I can relate to your sentiments with regard to Jeanie, Bluestone, at least as far as goes her beauty and her delightfully 'submissive' comportment. It is indeed quite the thrill to hear a woman say, "Yes Master", and mean it. Gotta love the BDSM community for that. (For clarity, I should append that there are in fact more male submissives in the BDSM community than female.)

My fantasies however very much include that complete submissive desire on the part of my 'bellybutt's' to fulfill my every desire (an utterly essential ingredient to being a bellybutt), most emphatically including the desire to get themselves killed by me. Perhaps my ultimate fantasy would in fact be Jeanie, as she could magic herself back to life afterwards so we could do it every night.

I have loved women intensely, likely as intensely as humanly possible. And not a one of them was not in my fantasies. I did not 'roleplay' my fantasies with all of them, and I certainly never would have desired to 'actually' harm any of them, but if I am aroused by a woman, she will inevitably inspire an equal fetish interest in me.

All that said, there are certainly beautiful women whom I acknowledge as being extraordinary, whom I would not use in my fantasies as a bellybutt. But then I would not imagine myself sexually involved with them either. They simply do not interest me 'that way'. It is not however because they are 'too beautiful'. Queen Elisabeth is a beautiful woman (check out photos of her when she was young) but she would have inspired no 'sexual' interest even if I met her back when. My mother was a beautiful woman. And then there are the plethora of physically beautiful women who are frankly, no where near as pretty on the inside.

[Nightposter]

With the "Jeannie" fantasy, this beautiful woman can be called out of a bottle or put back in the bottle, whenever her 'master' wants. She idolizes her master. She would do anything for him, including sex.
Think about it. Let's say you had Petra, or whoever your favourite babe is, at your beck and call. She would do anything for you. She would call you master, and offer her body freely to you. Would you still kill her in your fantasies?
Thoughts?

Dr. Blue

Welllll.... then I guess I have to insert my playmates Kim and Alice into the Jeannie fantasy...
Kim was that fantasy (almost) Kim and I played the fantasy almost daily, that is what she
wanted, and yes, I did kill her in our fantasies

The best part of a "Jeannie" fantasy is that you could kill her over and over, and she would come back for more - if that is what you wished...

Looking back, Kim and I seemed to be together "for the game"... we did some things together outside of role playing, we lived together, slept together, and made love - without ropes- together....but, you know....we never took a vacation together, and the words "I love you"
were not said as often. now maybe that was just her personality, and if our relationship had not ended as it did, maybe we'd be married today....I don't know....

With Alice, after a year, the "Jeannie " fantasy was true. She loved me, and told me daily,
we "played" her fantasies and mine...were almost never fatal, always rescued at the last moment, and usually rewarded with more love making.

Alice did come up with some rather intense fantasies ( some turned into stories yet to be posted) that I couldn't bring myself to carry out.
We did things away from "fantasies" vacations, nights out, and nights in. We did not live together regularly, until just before she moved to the west coast. And I know if she had not been taken from us in that car accident, we would have been married today.

[Nightposter]

A couple for you, and another one for me

[Skeebo]

I've got one: Kari from the show Mythbusters. She's so incredibly adorable that I couldn't possibly have any fantasies about her:

[Nightposter]

Do you know she's having a little Mythbuster??