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Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:31 pm
by Bluestone
Greetings Everyone!
I just locked the one active topic regarding DeadSkirts in favour of this topic. I personally found that, although several important matters were discussed on that thread that needed to be vented, the thread ultimately degenerated into antagonistic jousting. So, the air has been cleared, and it is time to move forward.
All further topics regarding DeadSkirts should be posted on this thread.
In the final analysis, I believe that most members of FF and DS simply want to return to peaceful co-existence. Whether this means a change in FF's status on DS or not is irrelevant. As I have stated before, Geno is free to ban me for life from DeadSkirts, if he wishes a pound of flesh for me banning him, provided the board wars end. Now, of course, there will always be sniping between the boards, because FF members may not like what happens on DS, and DS members may not like what we say and do here, but at least there doesn't have to be open conflict.
Having said that, Geno has asked to post his position on this matter here. FF Administration has agreed, provided Geno's verified post is posted through our moderator, Nightposter. Once posted, I and any other member here is free, as usual, to respond to Geno's comments, but I urge everyone to give Geno the benefit of the doubt and to respond with a view to putting an end to these disruptive board wars, and not to further fan the fires of discontent. After all, this is still a free speech board, and so even Geno should be allowed to say his piece without us having to hear it second hand through Pennpaul and others.
So, I shall await Geno's position on this issue!
Blue
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:40 pm
by Nightposter
Here is Geno's requested reply, cut and paste from his site. For verification there is a posting in the all topics section at Dead Skirts:
Geno
Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 4012
Location: Los Angeles, California
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
_____________I Failed To Make A Hero Out of Bluestone?_________ sad
Mr. Blue did not have the backbone during this round. Ordinarily I would have been able to do it if it weren't for a very small ban of rat-packers that he has allowed to take control of his board and force him into anti-social decisions against the fine members of DeadSkirts. The board war nor will the tension will not end this comming Saturday.
Now I want To Answer some Questions that were brought up by some of those rat-packers over there, during this lastest attempt to end the war.
Shootingmad Asked Are you allowing spammers to join DeadSkirts? No of course a spammer may sign up from time to time, but he never gets posting rights. When is the last time you have seen Mr. Viagra post here. laugh
Will the War end someday you ask?
Of course it will when Blue take a stand and does what is right for this community and accepts the olive branch from this board. He is very liberal and very susceptible to which ever way the wind is blowing and he is currently under a great deal of pressure from a small very vocal group of his members, on his board, that have a mortal hatred of DeadSkirts. Ordinarily we would just forget them all, but Bluestone wants good board relationships no matter what he says in front of mob. It is just that he feel he has to do what is politcially correct and give in to his loudest members. (dub the rat-pack)
KHP Asked: Do you Want to Join Us, because You Are Afraid of Loosing DeadSkirts? No absolutely not, Its because I own DeadSkirts I want to join. If I did not own DeadSkirts I would not want to join any board, in the fetish genre. Message boards don't work for everyone who has this fetish.
What is Does "Limited Status" For An Advertiser Mean? Limited Satus allows the full benefit of advertising on DeadSkirts, and responding to any post started by managment that concerns you. It only restricts the owner of a given site, from interacting with our members on regular non-commercial subjects.
BellyStabber --- Asks.. Have you Banned Actresses from Joining DeadSkirts who do Not Have The Fantasy Death Fetish In Their Blood? No! It was just a ruse. Part of roleplaying. First of all that would be hard for me to verify, and secondly any change like that would be reflected in the rules of DeadSkirts, always check the rules if you want to know if something is a joke or not.
BellyStabber Wonders Why does the Average Member Seem Not To Be Responding to This? Unlike your board, DeadSkirts is designed to allow it's members to get involved in heated debates without it affecting the rest of the board. We have a seperate section (All Topics) the cushions the and protects those members from hearing things they don't want to be come apart off.
Why Are You Denying Pennpual Ad Status? Pennpaul is one of the strongest supporters of Dr. Don we have on DeadSkirts. DeadSkirts is very pro-Dr. Don. Unlike your board, Dr. Don has several complaints against your board, including allowing attacks to be launched against him in the past. Your webmaster claimed his was taking a neutral stance. Your Webmaster later found out out that "Neutral" mean "Anti-Dr. Don". We never made that mistake on DeadSkirts. All our members are protected , even Bluestone from anyone using DeadSkirt for that purpose of false charges.
What Happened to DS Member "Manoir aka Superid", whom Sparked This Latest Big Flare Up With His Hit and Run Posts On Both Boards? Manoir is still a member but currently on the 18th day of a 21 day suspension for direct attack on our advertisers and for using the open board to post racist statement against Jews. He was not suspended for any claims that he made threats to harm actresses.
Dalila (a co-friendly member) What is the Status of Her Old Boss Dennis of Cnb Dennis is a full member of Deadskirts as of Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 2134 (8:34pm) hours Pacific Daylight Time. He has posting and adverstising rights, but like any full member he will choose when and if to post.
That is for now Folks. I have to run.
Sincerely Geno
I have been in communications with Geno over the last days to end this conflict, it serves no purpose! This message is civil and to the point, please consider this if you choose to answer
NP
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:53 pm
by Nightposter
My reply to this:
BellyStabber Wonders Why does the Average Member Seem Not To Be Responding to This? Unlike your board, DeadSkirts is designed to allow it's members to get involved in heated debates without it affecting the rest of the board. We have a seperate section (All Topics) the cushions the and protects those members from hearing things they don't want to be come apart off.
I believe he was expressing the fact that except for those involved, no one else bothered to comment on that thread. We have separate sections too, and we elected to insulate our members by continuing everything in that one thread, instead of it spreading into every topic on the board. We think it worked out well.
What Happened to DS Member "Manoir aka Superid", whom Sparked This Latest Big Flare Up With His Hit and Run Posts On Both Boards? Manoir is still a member but currently on the 18th day of a 21 day suspension for direct attack on our advertisers and for using the open board to post racist statement against Jews. He was not suspended for any claims that he made threats to harm actresses.
Interestingly, he has also disappeared from other boards at the moment.....
here's the verification link at Deadskirts:
http://deadskirts.com/superboard/viewtopic.php?p=126397
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:01 pm
by Bluestone
Geno wrote: Will the War end someday you ask?
Of course it will when Blue take a stand and does what is right for this community and accepts the olive branch from this board. He is very liberal and very susceptible to which ever way the wind is blowing and he is currently under a great deal of pressure from a small very vocal group of his members, on his board, that have a mortal hatred of DeadSkirts. Ordinarily we would just forget them all, but Bluestone wants good board relationships no matter what he says in front of mob. It is just that he feel he has to do what is politcially correct and give in to his loudest members. (dub the rat-pack)
In response, I'm not really one for political correctness, and I have as much backbone as my fellow webmaster over at DS. Leave it to Geno to offer an olive branch in one hand while on the other hand insulting some of the finest FF members by calling them rat-packers, but that's just Geno. We can't really expect any more.
So, an olive branch has been offered. Geno apparently wants peace between the boards and co-existence. I'm all for that... always have been. People of FF, if you agree with Geno's assessment of me as having no firm stand and letting the wind blow me to and fro, please let me know, and slap me upside my head. I thought I was being accused of being too firm by not relenting in my ban of Geno. Hmmmm, Go figure
Anyway, I am content to accept Geno's olive branch and declare a truce in the Great Board Wars of 2009, if Geno also agrees to a truce, but this doesn't mean that FF members cannot voice their concerns here about matters that they feel are unfair on any of the other boards including DeadSkirts. It simply means that the administration of neither board will take steps to maliciously attack the other board.
So, Geno, thank you for the olive branch offered in your post (if not for the sniping included in the very same post).
Blue
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:18 pm
by Nightposter
Just in case....
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:04 am
by Nightposter
I'll put it plain and simple. We want the winning and crying about what is happening at another board to stop. We brokered a peace between them and us to stop the bashing
Geno will NOT be back, which is why I posted his FINAL message, instead of hearing it from someone else that we could all question their motives.
Geno has asked his people to back off, and we have asked ours to to the same.
For whatever reason he agreed, with the posting of this FINAL post.
KHP, I know you are tired of all this crap, my PM box has had stuff in it every day from lurkers who want this over so they can post and enjoy this board.
NOW - it is OVER.
Nothing we have agreed to prevents you from defending you or your company from attack.
Nothing insures that there will not be another attack on anyone either.
All that Dalila, Blue, and I have worked for behind the scenes in the last weeks is to end the wars so we could all get back to posting in the other threads, instead of having to watch everyone's back against flying knives.
Screen shots of what he wrote, and verified have been posted so that even 4P can not dispute it.
Blue has allowed this so those mentioned in his FINAL message to respond, as you have.
Shortly this thread will be locked, and moderators will take a dim view of those who want to disrupt the peace and quiet that we hope will break out around here.
This is over!
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:04 am
by EvilBilly
I have to say that I'm behind Paul 100%. I like that this has been a Geno-free area. I also think it's no coincidence that some 'new' folks have found their way here. If the 2 boards want to be 'co-friendly', so be it as long as there's no Geno here. For that matter I also wouldn't mind it if Pennpaul and John Matrix no longer visited here either.
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:12 am
by shootingmad
Guys, im not sure some of you understood the situation.
Geno is not coming back
ever again
ever.
this has just been a polite attempt at ending recent useless discussiones.
lets all be grown ups about this, just say "ok good idea" to this thread and move on.
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:34 am
by Bluestone
Paul,
I did ask you to hit me upside my head if you thought I was blowing with the wind. Well, you sure pack a good punch, my man! I'm reeling here. I may have to call for Petra and Suzi to help me into the hot tub. (Actually, I'm feeling fine, but any excuse to get two beautiful blondes to take care of me must be taken.) Oh, by the way, Paul, you are invited to the nuptials when Geno and I are joined in the unholy bonds of gay matrimony. It's all a secret plot by me to divorce him and take half of DeadSkirts for myself. I'll choose the Fantasy Female Death forum, and leave him with the All Topic Board. Then, I'll hit him with a whopping palimony suit. Yes!!! Oh, sorry, I digress. Now, back to the topic at hand.
Nightposter is completely right. I thought I was completely clear and never waffled on my position. Let me re-state once again:
1. This is not some plan to bring Geno back to FF. Geno's ban was for life, and he seems to still be alive and kicking. FF shall be a Geno-free board forever! Now, can I make it any clearer than that? If so, kindly tell me how
2. What is the fascination with DS? Well, frankly, I have none, but apparently the moderators here have been getting feedback from other FF members who feel that this constant bickering between the boards is a negative thing and disrupts our enjoyment of the fetish. I completely understand this feeling. So, I thought it best to put an end to the constant acrimony. Everyone had a chance to have their say on the KHP-Geno-Dr. Don thread. That's now history. I see no sense in dwelling on it any longer.
3. Peace between the boards does not mean that we have to like Geno or what he does over there. FF shall still be a place where we can keep the other boards honest, and where people can hang out who prefer our laid back atmosphere to the atmosphere over at DS. We still have our rights to free speech and can criticize injustices that we see here, there, anywhere. We're not muzzling anyone here. It's just that the management of the two boards are attempting to be somewhat civil with one another. I can't quite understand why putting an end to hostilities is viewed as a negative move.
I do appreciate Paul and others speaking their minds. So, please continue to do so. If everyone misses the Star Wars, I can very easily start them up again
I just thought everyone was getting bored with the "Bored Wars".
Blue
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:54 am
by shootingmad
Dear Paul,
with all due respect I think you are overreacting because a misinterpretation of whats going on.
no one here is saying that Geno should be forgiven, or that we just hold hands with him and kiss his (i bet) very hairy ass.
I understand what you said and I would agree with you if what you are saying was true. However I dont understand this situatino the same way you do, because again, this post is not about bonding again with Geno. Its about puting an end to the weekly discussions and topics about DS, Pennpaul, John Matrix, etc, etc, etc.
I do agree with you, however, that this should have died long ago and that this opinion from Geno voiced by Nightposter may not be the most skilled move. But im willing to just let it pass since its not that really important. You and I know the real Geno and you and I wont forgive him. You call him "enemy", I call him other things but we stand on the same ground.
But after this topic and this so called peace arrangement, then we shouldnt hear anymore from Geno or from Pennpaul or whatever. So why all the rage?
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:55 am
by Nightposter
Paul you are entitled to your opinion.. but we are tired of the needless bickering that went on when geno sent those guys here. I Pm'ed you with a reply, I do not expect you to agree with me, but we did what we did to stop the wars.
-no one asked you to hug and kiss geno...he's gone all we are asking is that we all stop sniping at each other now.
-the moderators a will follow Blue's lead, tho we are not going to allow the topics slipping back into bashing anyone like they did before the Geno thread was created, there are a page full of active topics now that do not mention any thing going on at any other board, that is the way a lot of members (maybe even the majority ) want this board to be.
-feel free to create a new ranting thread if you wish, no one will stop you.
Blue has decreed this a Geno free zone and we should respect this and just not mention him any more ( without good reason)
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:06 am
by Bluestone
Paul (and all others who feel the same way),
This isn't about forgiving or forgetting the hurtful things that Geno has done and said. That is why the ban is staying in place. Geno was banned for the atrocious things that he said. We will remember them, just as we'll remember Pearl Harbour and the World Trade Centre massacre. If we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. So, don't think for a minute that all is forgotten and forgiven. The evidence is right here on this board and it will remain here and not be deleted. That has not changed and will not change! No one is being asked to change their opinion of Geno in the least.
Secondly, I did not broker this peace, or ask for it, but I did not stand in the way of it. I have to ultimately think about what's best for the entire community, while making sure that no secret agenda is being forced on anyone here. No, I didn't lie about the email that I intercepted. There was a concerted effort to attack Paul and disrupt this board. It was repulsed and proved completely ineffective. Geno has no doubt realized that he cannot successfully attack this board and the good people like Paul who frequent it. We have stood together as a community to ensure our survival, and we have succeeded. I tend to see this olive branch of Geno's as a simple acknowledgement of this fact. FF will continue to thrive. Geno has accepted this fact. He must also accept that he cannot be part of what we have built here with our combined hard work.
Finally, there is no specific ban on any topic here that is allowed by the Rules of the Board. It is a suggestion only that fetish-related topics are preferred. There are some pretty sweet-looking ladies who have recently joined this board, and I think I'd rather enjoy pics of Kelli than read prose about Geno
Now, whose idea was it to close the bar. It's only 1:00 am. Open 'er up, NP! Drinks for everyone!
Blue
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:12 am
by Nightposter
Yea! what he said!!
Bars open, I didn't wanna sleep anyway
where's that popcorn?
btw thanks Blue and Gman!
Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:15 am
by Nightposter
Oh and by the way...
No one has declared Victory.....
only Peace...
I just heard a snippet from Blazing Saddles on CinneMagic....
I can't resist...
Where are all the women at???

Re: Peace between the Boards?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:17 am
by Dalila di Capri
I understand Paul's position.
His mother and one of his best known models were both horribly insulted by Geno.
He has the right to be upset about it, and I know that this will not become the kind of board that silences free speech.
I was involved in the behind the scenes contact, not because I wanted to be involved but because both sides trusted me enough to share some information.
I know that I can speak for several key people, actresses and webmasters alike, who have expressed that they don't want Geno here at FF, and I don't see either Blue or Nightposter saying anything that would contradict that position.
I stated before that Geno went too far here at this forum, and I stand by that statement.
I also stated that I think Geno's offer to reinstate Dennis came about 3 months too late.
I still don't believe in banning, but I respect the decision reached by this board.
I plan to post both here and a DS, and have expressed my reasons for doing so both privately and publically. Paul is one of the people that I have PM'd about my continued posting at DS, because I want to make sure that he understands my reasons for doing so, and specifically that I will not allow anyone to defame actresses in our genre, call them whores, sluts, etc...or to attack people's mothers...without hearing from me about such disgusting comments.
Now it is very late...even later in Texas...later still in the East Coast.
Let us all go to sleep and dream about busty wenches in pirate outfits being run through with rapiers
and yes Blue I noticed this emoticon
Cute, but I could go for something sexier
Baci