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I'm looking for videos with this kind of fetish. I like watch at nice girls masturbating (incl. anal) and self-asphyxiated using belts, ropes so on. This practice is relatively safe (with some restrictions) and real asphyxiation can be shot even until loosing consequences. Unfortunately there are lack of this kind of videos. I know only about 10-15 titles at all. This is just a small drop in ocean of erotic movies. But looks like lot of models like this practice. So why such videos are not made regularly? I think studios making erotic death fetish videos are much closer to this fetish than any general porn studios. Woman masturbating and self-choking is in danger. Often she dreams about danger while doing this.

I have done quite a few such videos. You may in fact be referring to my own work when you mention the videos you have seen. But on the off chance you are 'not' familiar with my work, check out my relevant scenes here:

http://www.the-progressive-art-project. ... ic&x=0&y=0

I've seen some of your videos, probably they was made first. Some of these videos look very sexy. But not trusted. With respect to your work I have say - I don't believe in them. I don't believe in videos where girl plays too much. I know how looks females face while being asphyxiated. I don't believe when girl screws her face up. I even don't believe girls in these videos exactly fainted and lost consequences. They control how they look and this breaks impression. I like videos where girl makes this all not for camera but for her own pleasure. Of course I saw well known movie SoLow. First scene with Lexi Bardot is most trustable. I know another one very good scene with Jamey Janes and fucking machine. Both these scenes are best examples how autoerotic asphyxiation videos can be made.

I have a video called "Really Strangle Her". And, she is "really" doing breath play. There is a sample of it on my blog, here:http://pkfstudios.com/pkfblog/?p=267

The whole sequence is much longer--she goes out 3-4 times then is killed.

If course, it is just a movie. The breath-play is as real as I could get--but controlled. Allowing someone to really go out on a movie is not desirable. #1, waking up they are disoriented and it slows down the production. #2, there is no insurer in the world that would cover that.

Yes, I have seen porn flicks---one in particular where they choke a girl out over and over again. No way of knowing if it is real, since girls who practice breath-play often hold their own breath and the result--face red, veins popping is achieved.

If a girl really goes out---the recovery is not instant.

Here is a sample of a real pass out incident with Moxxie Maddron.
http://pkfstudios.com/videos/moxxie_breath_play.mpg

She is a pro and does that a lot, whether we wanted her too or not. The trick with her was cutting the action before she went out. I cut the scene right before I could tell she was going out, but you see the flutter and moment of Zen in her eyes.

Here is a sample where we did a real choke hold and caused Ginger to go out:
http://pkfstudios.com/videos/knockout_ginger.wmv

Notice she was a bit disoriented. It took a full 10 minutes before we were able to continue the shoot. I did a second one with her nude. But, when she came out the second time she was scared and panicky.

My point being, real autoerotic asphyxia or any form of passing someone out is not practical when making fantasy movies.

JohnM

"Really Strangle Her" looks very good and realistic but unfortunately full body and legs are not visible. And video ends suddenly. If only she would masturbate or somebody else masturbate her that would be much better. Short movie with Moxxie is well known and looks very good. But even better it would be with full body and legs visible. She has to be fucked right now after that. Finally Ginger has too much wear.

The best real asphyx movie I've ever seen is xxx movie with Roxy Jezel. She is fucked and choked untill passing out more and more. She is in real subspace and looks completely helpless and contollable.

But I talk about something rather different. I talk about autoerotic asphyxiation with masturbation scenes. Peter made autoerotic movies but asphyx looks like fake. You make good asphyx but without autoerotic masturbation. Just make more like SoLow! Different look, different girls, including anal toys. Real asphyx, real pleasure. There is very few of such videos. Real passing out and awakening at the end will make such movies more juicy.

I respect everyones fantasies, but it seems to me no matter how much "precautions" you take you always run the risk of a real death when you start playing around with real auto asphyxiation. Watch the news, it happens all the time. To me this is just fantasy, I would never intentionally or unintentionally hurt anyone. Also, what are the chances of lasting brain damage from this practice? I think you are playing with fire

Watch the news, it happens all the time.

Watch the news - ALL, AGAIN, ALL deaths of autoerotic asphyxiation happened WHILE EACH PERSON WAS ALONE. No one people dead after auto asphyxiation when played with partner. All deaths happened because of people was alone and cannot get help when "escape" system failed. JohnM has experience with real asphyxiation of models - his experiments are much more dangerous than auto-asphyxiation. There lot of ways to play safe. This is objective law - no one can choke herself to death if uses only her muscle force. More dangerous are some semi-hanging methods but under control they are safe enough.

Personally I know several girls who practise autoerotic asphyxiation with their partners. Exactly autoerotic, not being choked by partner but self-choking. They do it for long time and are not afraid of death.

what are the chances of lasting brain damage from this practice?

That is many-many times less than danger for people who climb to mountains. People who I know personally practise AEA for years. Not more than 2-3 times per week. Not more than 2 minutes for each attempt. Mountain climbers feel oxygen hunger permanently for many days during ascent. They loose thousand times more brain cells than asphyxiated person in short session.

In auto-erotic practices brain exactly IS NOT completely deprivated by oxygen. In addition to well-known frontal artery there are 2 more arteries deeply inside neck. They cannot be completely squeezed in simple strangling session. That means brain gets blood and oxygen even if front artery squeezed. Lack of oxygen forces brain "sleep" to avoid damage. If blood current resumes right now - then brain awakes again without harm.

bizare90 wrote:"Really Strangle Her" looks very good and realistic but unfortunately full body and legs are not visible. And video ends suddenly. If only she would masturbate or somebody else masturbate her that would be much better. Short movie with Moxxie is well known and looks very good. But even better it would be with full body and legs visible. She has to be fucked right now after that. Finally Ginger has too much wear.

The best real asphyx movie I've ever seen is xxx movie with Roxy Jezel. She is fucked and choked untill passing out more and more. She is in real subspace and looks completely helpless and contollable.

But I talk about something rather different. I talk about autoerotic asphyxiation with masturbation scenes. Peter made autoerotic movies but asphyx looks like fake. You make good asphyx but without autoerotic masturbation. Just make more like SoLow! Different look, different girls, including anal toys. Real asphyx, real pleasure. There is very few of such videos. Real passing out and awakening at the end will make such movies more juicy.

Those were just samples. The full version of "Really Strangle Her" is 38 minutes long and you see plenty of legs.

The strangle scene with Moxxie was an outtake. The full movie is over 40 minutes.

I have done autoerotic asphyxiation movies:
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http://nicheclips.com/58/clips/files/pr ... y_prev.jpg
http://nicheclips.com/58/clips/files/pr ... ie_pre.jpg
http://nicheclips.com/58/clips/files/pr ... ar_pre.jpg

But, nothing was done for real, or at least it was cut before actual pass out occurs.

Good luck in your quest. I am not sure any responsible company will shoot that type of content for real and on purpose.

JohnM

at least it was cut before actual pass out occurs

So pity... Without real passing out this is like chocolate candy without nut stuffing.

It's amazing how quickly they passed out! I had no idea things could get bad that quickly for someone... personally it makes me glad people don't play with really cutting off oxygen very often, it looks like things could go wrong way more rapidly than I would have expected.

-D

bizare90: Personally, I don't wish to see the real thing. Even pressure on the external carotids on the neck may be sufficient to cause cardiac arrest, long before lack of oxygen causes loss of consciousness, according to various medical authorities on the internet. My own view is that this is a fantasy ... erotic strangulation of beautiful babes doesn't have to be entirely realistic to light my fuse.

I do suggest that you take a look at an older production from Drop Dead Gorgeous ... probably made in the late 1990's and originally peddled as part of a videotape collection called "Something Blue." The piece features a hot DDG girl called Tia, who performs a wildly clever and erotic auto-asphyxiation using a rope, her panties, and a door knob, clad only in high heels. By the end of her enthusiastic masturbation and self-administered asphyxiation, she is dead, but twitching on the floor. Tia was either a very good actress, or she was very turned on while doing her scene.

You can find a digitally downloadable version of it on nicheclips.com at Dark Fantasies. The current title is "Hanging Alone". On the Dark Fantasies site, scroll down to the middle of the second page ... it was uploaded on their site on November 5, 2010. The piece is about 10 minutes long (65 MB) and sells for 7 bucks.

I have a copy of the original videotape, and am not interested in getting a digital version. A posting by StrangeDog on April 27 on the Deadskirts site has a link to the Dark Fantasies site in a comment by DavidP, in case you can't find your way otherwise to Dark Fantasies.

Let us know if you find other material.

BROCK