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The Free Dictionary defines misogynistic as follow:
mi·sog·y·nis·tic (m-sj-nstk) also mi·sog·y·nous (-sj-ns) adj.
- Of or characterized by a hatred of women.
You'd think on a site like this, where the subject matter is fantasizing about killing women, that a majority of the members would be misogynistic, but I for one have had the erotic death fetish as long as I can remember, and I absolutely LOVE women!
Now, I'm not saying that mine is the only attitude that matters on this forum. Of course, it isn't. I'm also not saying that there aren't members here who hate women for one reason of another, but I'd hazard a guess that they are not in the majority. Since this is a free speech board, all members are free to express their opinions, even if they're minority opinions. So, I thought I'd run a poll along with this thread. Voting is anonymous, so if you do indeed hate women, please vote, and post also, if you wish, and those who don't hate women, please do likewise. A discussion is much more interesting if there are differing views from different perspectives.
What are your attitudes on this subject?
Blue
Bluestone's Silk Videos - Producer of Sexy Crime Dramas and Superheroine Films featuring HOT actresses!
I pretty much adore women! I worship the Goddess at the temple of their bodies. I call the adorable actresses in this genre Goddesses, because they transcend life and "death." They see that our fun is all pretend anyway, fantasy of domination and submission, a game, PLAY. And they have fun playing with us and for us.
Sure, there are shabby women, but a smaller percentage of their gender than there are shabby men in their gender. I don't see much to respect in most men. So I kind of worship women. I grew up with the "women-in-peril" movie serials and longed to be the big hero who rescued them and received their eternal gratitude. Death-fetish art is just a step further, where a lover receives the very life of the beloved, their ultimate surrender to a totally possessive lust, a grateful sacrifice in homage to the masterful dominating power of one over the other, and the utter loving submission of one to the other. We all die anyway, so why not do it in a highly artistic manner, in fantasy at least?
"Death is the ultimate orgasm: DIE for me my darling!".................................elsullo
Actually, I was thinking the same thing as indrid Cold.
Its kinda right up there with asking someone if there an alcoholic, or addicted to drugs, But perhaps more embarrassing.
Anyway, I suspect the true misogynist, would probably not recognize it in themselves. And anyone outside the fetish would likely think we're all in that catagorie.
Interestingly enough, there is a question that has to be answered one way or the other when applying for FF membership which mirrors the question in this poll, and you'd be surprised as to how many select, "I hate women" in their application. Now, you may ask, why do I let them in, if they answer "I hate women". Simple. I assume that most are not telling the truth, because they feel that a site such as this is looking for people who hate women. Many others probably assume, falsely, that they must really deep down hate women, if they have this fetish. Sooooo, I am hopeful that the anonymity of the poll will result in honest answers which will provide us with a cross-section of our FF membership. At the very least, if no one admits their misogynistic feelings, they must be a non-vocal minority, but who knows, unless you ask.
It's an interesting topic nonetheless.
By the way, our female members can also vote... even if they hate women!
Blue
Bluestone's Silk Videos - Producer of Sexy Crime Dramas and Superheroine Films featuring HOT actresses!
well i wood say my answer is no but actually, i may not have the credentials to actually qualify my own answer or belief:
i think Sandi alluded to this in another post. this fet of ours is actually psychologically induced (at sum point in our lives) and becomes a form of pornography because we find it erotic (meeting the definition of pornography), and i guess its sexually erotic but again that depends on what u do when u c it :)
the difference between our fets (i guess 4 the most part) and regular pornography is that we require or prefer sum form of killing and then in sum cases sex or sum sex act afterwards. what precedes the sex is the killing (the foreplay if u will) this is what separates our fets from mainstream pornography - our additional erotic turn on. not sure if that type of foreplay (the killing) definitively equates to misogyny or sum form of it. i say this because i know sum guys that just want to go out, find women in bars, take them home and sex 'em. in essence they just want to use them as an object 4 there own sexual gratification. might they hate women, they very well may but as a society 4 sum reason we seem to be moar accepting of this type of behavior. dont get me wrong i am not saying that taking a women home and asking her to make believe u just poisoned her drink, thus causing her to convulse, and then lay still with her eyes and mouth wide open while u do her might possibly be any less misogynistic but i can only tell u what i feel on a daily basis about women, even after a r/p spiked drink night :)....
in the end, i do not want to wipe all women off the face of the earth, r u kidding! my fet wood be totally ruined and that wood be a real bummer. the best part of the fet 4 me is i get to c the same hot gals over and over die 4 me - how kewl is that.
(I don't really hate anyone except the hateful, actually, although I do go off at some of the younger more beautiful blondes like Sandi and Lady Ash in shared fun.
"Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest of them all?")
Somewhere, probably at the Video and Image Forum but maybe here, while you were gone I posted (in your honor and in honor of the Olympics in London) a 'duel' scene between Steph and Sandi, the famed 'duel at dawn'.
I think you'll like it...lol.....
Re the topic of Misogyny, I've said all I wish to say about that at DS. Sometimes it exists, sometimes video and image depictions 'come across' at misogyny to women, but no act in and of itself defines misogyny and the enjoyment of certain types of image and video depictions certainly do not per se make anyone a hater of women.
What is your main fetish?: It's a combination of secret agents, superheroines, celebs, and pregnant women being killed. Although i don't necessarily have to talk about the last one on the boards if it's too sensitive of an issue.
Why do you want to join this forum?: Looks like a fun place to chat
Referral: I've known about Blue's stuff for several years, but I only just came across the forums looking for stuff about Raven Alexis (one of my favorite stars in both mainstream and erotic death fetish porn).
No, I definitely do not hate women. I hate some specific women of course...and when I'm road raging I do sometimes say some really sexist things in the heat of the moment (don't we all? Commuting seems to bring out every emotion that we try to repress during the day to light...which causes no end to my depths of self-loathing, because I hate having a negative emotion towards anyone), but generally I don't hate women. My fetish has nothing to do with hate. I can blame it on a number of other things (a need for control, a want to preserve women at the height of their beauty, stuff like that), but hate has nothing to do with it. Which I think is why I like it best when a woman gets off on her death in my stuff, because it involves her in the process as well instead of making things all about me.
At least, that's my justification. And I'm sticking to it.
This is a bit of a ramble. You can skip to the end if you like. Or read it in reverse---that might be fun.
I tend to judge people for there actions, and not just one action (though there are exceptions), but a pattern that over time gives me a good idea who a person is.
In that process, I rarely look at fictional stories, movies or pictures as a evidence.
I have no specific examples. I suppose I could present myself, but no matter what real information I give anyone about me, you do not know if it is true. All you have is my movies to look at. And, while I am sure you might see a different side of me via sharing my home movies, or my mainstream production work---I, for obvious reasons, cannot share that.
I look at what a person does or says to me over time. That is how I decide.
It is difficult in the fantasy world because people are supposed to be engaging their fantasis. So, rarely on DFN I will get an email that might be over-the -top, but I read it, respond nicely regardless of how I feel. I assume they are speaking in fantasy. Playing a character. It is difficult trying to play mind doctor and frankly, I should not have too. People say things. I am going to assume, put in context, it is fantasy. And, as far as their real feelings-- well, I look at it this way: I deal with people all the time who probably have political and religious views I don't agree with. But, I get along with them just fine because, I don't ask what those views are.
It is certainly a baited question. Even of someone answered yes, what would would that mean on a fantasy forum. Nothing at all.
We can ask more, but what do the answers really mean.
If you really want to see hate. Check out the CBT fetish. It is real. Not fake. I can find no female equivalent to this fetish. BDSM does not even come close. The happiness of the woman as she is sliding the cathiter up the screaming guys junk is a clear indication of Misandry.
Or is it?
I have known several women who have worked for me who have done these videos. And they loved doing them. Misandric. No. It was just fun.
And who is watching this type of movie? That is the question I suppose. But do we really want to know. There are so many fetishes. So many. What about scat. What about face sitting. What does it mean about the person that watches?
You know, I just realized I made a mistake. I was talking about fetishes where things are really done to the participants. Fantasy Death Fetish is fake.
My guess would now be that the "no's" are probably pretty accurate assessment. Given that the movies are sexual and erotic in nature, even some of the most violent are quite tame compared some of the sexual torture content I have seen sites like Kink do. And, of course, knowing many woman that have gone down to San Francisco to shoot at the Armory, they LOVE IT. And, with interviews after the movies where they express their enjoyment of the torture, I am pretty sure a real Misogynist would find that lame.
Well, that pretty much sums it up I think. Fake scenes, happy girls = disappointed Misogynists. I doubt they come here at all.
Indrid Cold wrote:Who is the one woman-hater? Reveal thyself!
I'm sure there's more than one, but polls here are also fully confidential. So, if he or she doesn't wish to reveal themselves that's quite all right. After all, we want an accurate poll. So, that means that either answer is valid.
Blue
Bluestone's Silk Videos - Producer of Sexy Crime Dramas and Superheroine Films featuring HOT actresses!
What is your main fetish?: A few... Shootings, (arrows, bullets, darts, beanbags, lightning bolts, watermelons whatever), stabbing and body play/posing. And more innocently, wetlook or "splosh" as its called elsewhere.
Why do you want to join this forum?: I want to see the content and to keep up with what is produced, what others like and to be in the company of other people who share my fetishes. Growing up I thought I was the only one with these fetishes.
Referral: google searches and seen FF mentioned on other related sites.
I hate women. Actually I hate everyone...