I'm new and I'm hungry

[Reallyhaveto]

Hi everyone,
This will be my very first post, as I'm new around here. I will certainly be a discreet member, but please tell me if I'm being too bold with my demands. I read the forum rules, but since I'm not a native English speaker, some nuances might have escaped my attention.

I'm looking for 3 clips that disappeared from youtube, maybe you can help me find them:
1) A woman is sitting at night with a dirty guy in front of a van. I think she might be a hooker. They argue and he ends up hitting here with a repair tool. He then begins to strangle her and finally takes her to the back of the van when she finally chokes to death.
2) Two women fence during what seems to be the climax of a movie. The blond one wears a white night gown. She wins the fight and spares the leatherclad brunette villain. The villain then comes back at her but gets thrust by the blonde's fleuret before falling on the ground, lifeless.
3) A brunette is kneeling on a bed, wearing some kind of one-piece swimsuit. A guy with what seems to be a paper bag on his face comes from behind and stabs her in the stomach twice. The whole scene is very erotic and she doesn't seem to suffer much, until she coughs a few times and dies.
I'd greatly appreciate it if you could help me find them, even if I don't have much hope. I scaned motherless.com and found some vids I was looking for, but these are hard to find...

I also look for (free) videos with the actress Tiffany Lee, a beautiful dark skinned woman who played for KHP. I found only one (some kind of audition room where she gets shot), and from what I read around the web and here, it seems KHP is gone and its videos unavailable. Can anyone confirm this, so I stop spending time searching? Or provide links, that would be better ;)

May I ask you something else? I was always very uncomfortable with what seems to be a lot of people's fantasy, until I ended up with an amazing girlfriend who accepts it (or to be more precise, with whom I felt comfortable enough to explain the whole deal). How do you put up with having such a "socially awkward" fantasy? Did you make the step of talking about it to other live persons? I still feel a little unsteady with all that, because although cinema sexualizes death, it doesn't seem like people are consciously noticing.
Feel free to ignore that last questions if you find it to be to personal - or boring!

Thank you very much!

[Bluestone]

Welcome aboard Reallyhaveto,

I don't think anyone will be offended by your questions, but one rule you missed is that we don't trade in community producers' videos. Clips from mainstream movies are fine, because the death scenes only represent a very small portion of the production, but our community productions are all about the death scenes. So, pirating or trading them will get one very quickly banned from all of my sites, including this one. Just a word of caution.

As for KHP, he is out of business, but his clips are still copyrighted, and many of them, including ones featuring Tiffany Lee, are still available for sale on the CNB membership website.

I'll leave your other very interesting question for other members to address.

Blue

[Nyghtfall]

Welcome aboard.

I can't help ya with the YouTube clips, but I concur with Blue that trading fetish clips is strictly off-limits. If you happen to find any links, you're encouraged to report them - in private, to the producers who created them - as well.

As for the fantasy death fetish itself, you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone in the community who would find your fantasies taboo. My wife, best friend, and immediate family know about my asphyx fetish, and understand it's strictly fantasy-oriented. I'm not into real-life breath play. I prefer a cinematic approach to fantasy death scenes, similar to what you'd find in mainstream movies or TV shows, but for adults only.

On the rare occasions people have asked about my attraction to graphic violence when discussing movies and TV shows, I've simply explained that I think they've become so formulaic anymore that I often watch them just to see how many different ways the FX department can come up with to kill off various characters. The trick is rationalizing your fondness for death scenes in a way that doesn't make you sound like a freak or closet serial killer. Making fun of Hollywood is something people can relate to, which allows them feel at ease around you because you've made it clear you're a harmless movie buff who also happens to be a gorehound.

[Reallyhaveto]

Thanks to both of you!

About the videos, the first two are actually from mainstream movies. I remember them being quite short, and the way the video started and ended indicated clearly it was but an sample of a larger production. As for the third though, no doubt it was a production in itself, indeed.
Again, I'm no native speaker, and would just like to understand things clearly here:
-May I (or anyone else) post links to clips extracted from mainstream movies?
-How can one recognize whether a fetish production is copyrighted or free to distribute? One can find so many free clips on youtube or around the web that it's hard to tell which is there for anyone to enjoy and which should have made the object of a payment...

About the fetish:
I'm impressed you could bring the matter before such a large group! As I said, only my girlfriend has a thorough knowledge of it. I tried a few times to test whether a few friends would be ready to hear about it and got mixed results. Most people don't actually realize how much death is sexualized in cheap movies. As for those who see it too, I gathered many think it's ridiculous, and I don't dare taking the step of saying I like it. This being said, of the few select people I could talk about it with, I suffered no ill judgement. One friend even dug into the subject, watched a few videos, and realized she got quite excited by these sexy death scenes :)

[Grace X]

Hey Reallyhaveto...

You will find as you hang out a little more in the community that among us there is a great deal of support and validation shared...we really are a tight and loving group of men and women, even if we all use pseuodonyms and are suitably cautious with aspects of our personal lives.

I've found that many men new to our community are quite surprised at the number of women who share in death fetish fantasies. We gals are diverse in age and in our desires, but we are great fun to hang out with here on the boards!

In real life a few people know about my fetish...my husband, my sister, my niece...but I keep it private from business and casual acquaintances. For me it's a nice balance. I have a few folks around me in RL that I can talk with about my death-fantasy desires, but primarily that happens here in the comfortable places the community has created online.

[Bluestone]

Thanks to both of you!

-May I (or anyone else) post links to clips extracted from mainstream movies?
-How can one recognize whether a fetish production is copyrighted or free to distribute? One can find so many free clips on youtube or around the web that it's hard to tell which is there for anyone to enjoy and which should have made the object of a payment...

Yes, you can post links to mainstream clips. Check out the "Video and Image Share" forum here at FF. That is what that forum is dedicated to.

Believe me, I know that there are a lot of clips out there. I have to take far too much time from my editing to have mine pulled down. It makes me angry as hell!!!! Generally, the longer the death scene, the more likely it is a death fetish community production, and not a clip from a mainstream movie. If the whole video from intro to ending is posted, it ain't just a death scene from a longer movie.

Blue

[Reallyhaveto]

@Grace X
Thank you for the kind and encouraging words. I like the idea that this fetish informs me of a certain aspect of my libido, but it's a hard thing to bring out in front of people whose judgement I fear. I hope someday I will have enough courage to show one of my favorite videos to my girlfriend and face the possibility she might find it pointless. For now, she seems very accepting of my fetish without having practically faced it and I'm already grateful for it!
As you say, I was a bit surprised to see so many women around here. Surprised in a good way! It immediately lightens the stupid yet recurring idea that men are lustfull beasts whereas women prefer embroidery.
As I said, I'm gonna be an occasionnal and discreet guest, but I'm happy to have found a place where people with an unusual taste are welcome.
@Blue
Got it! Remains one question: do you have a mean of discerning an amateur, copyright free clip from a professional one one should have paid for?
By habit, I recognize a few clips share the same shooting stage or starr the same actresses with the same type of directions given from a clip to another, but mostly, it seems to me all this material you can find everywhere is supposed to be free. If only because of the average quality, a good clip being a rare thing to find in my opinion...

[Nyghtfall]

I'm impressed you could bring the matter before such a large group!

I didn't have a choice in telling my wife. I found my very first fantasy death fetish web site, Necrobabes, in 1997, three years after we were married, and didn't want her questioning the membership fee. I told my best friend about my fetish shortly after we met in High School. I mentioned it to my Dad and Brother as part of casual conversation about graphic violence in Horror movies several years ago.

-How can one recognize whether a fetish production is copyrighted or free to distribute?

Rule #1 - You will never find a fetish production that isn't copyrighted or free to distribute. Just don't do it. Fetish producers work on a shoe-string budget that's always at risk of breaking, and they rely on our support to continue making videos for us.

Here a few key things to look for:

* Video length - With a few rare exceptions, most fetish videos seldom exceed a 30-minute running time. The average is 5-15 minutes.
* Graphic, exploitative violence
* Long, drawn-out death scenes
* Hardcore sexual elements before, during, and after death scenes.

If you see a clip that mentions the following producers anywhere in the opening credits or as part of a caption someone has incluuded in a thread title or body of a message, it's a fetish video and should be reported to the producer. Keep in mind this list is not all-inclusive, these are only the ones I know about:

PKF Studios
More PKF Studios
PKF Morgues and Medical
PKF Death Cut
Dirty Deeds
Psycho-Thrillers
Dead Play
$9 Cold Kills
Chris' Corner
Taboo Cinema
Truly Rough Productions
Bluestone
All About Eve
Night Frights
Chokechamber
AbusedKillednUsed
A/C Strangle Girls
Strangle Girlz
WAVE
Club Dead
Killville
Annabelles Fantasies
Dirty Dick's Asylum
Frightmares
Ruemorgue
Roadkill Studio
Last Breath
Slaymates
Eyewitness Productions
WAVE Movies

As for determining what's ok to share, here's the simplest rule to follow:

If you can find a title on IMDB, TV.com, Netflix, or the family-friendly section of your local video store, chances are it's a safe bet. The only exception to that rule that I can think of is WAVE Movies. I don't know how they got listed, but a few of their titles are on IMDB.

I have a clip site I launched in 1999 that I use to share asphyx-related death scenes I've edited strictly from mainstream movies and TV shows. You're welcome to use it as a guide to better understand what you can share.

[Indrid Cold]

#2 sounds like "Burial of the Rats".

[JohnM]

I find that fetishes are best left to personal fantasy or within a community like this. There is no rreason to feel guilty or ashamed if certain fetishes cannot be shared with a loved one.

How many guys fantasize about something what they are having sex that they do not share with there partner in that moment. I would say--many---especially after you have been together for a while. And the girls do it too. Right now, I can imagine there are many women--probably in the 35+ catagory, thinking about Christian Grey, while the rest might still be thinking Khal Drogo suits thier needs. And, beside the person, there is the fantasy situation....again, something that is better left to oneself.

But I digress.

I guess to put it simply----my partner does not ask me about my fetish and I don't ask about her fetish for fantastical theme parks with overpriced stuffed mouses.

JohnM

[xj900uk]

Hi there Reallyhaveto and welcome to the site. Please feel free to discuss your fetish, ideas and fantasies here, you will get a very receptive and positive audience.
BTW you are really lucky to have such an understanding girlfriend!!

[speak376]

welcome

[Reallyhaveto]

Thank you everyonefor your posts, and you Nyghtfall and JohnM for your views!
About the movies, I'm quite safe then, since almost all the clips I enjoy are 100% certain to be from mainstream hollywood movies!
Speaking of which, many thanks to Indrid Cold, it was Burial of the rats indeed! I watched the whole thing, and found it actually pretty poor, but the scene in question is surprisingly good in my opinion, and quite sexy too :)
I'm still looking for the van scene (obviously from a mainstream movie). I just remembered the man (with a flat voice) initiates a dialogue along the line of :
"- Your life is in my hands now.
-Please, I have a baby.
-You gotta do better than that."
Then he chokes her from behind, both laying at the back of the van. She moans 3 or 4 times before gasping and falling silent.
It's actually a pretty cruel scene... But as often, supposed to be sexy.