Bluestone's new direction

[samb55]

What makes the superheroine videos more costly to make than, say, the White Angel videos? If it's special effects, like the glowing sword in the last Blackbird video, those should be forgone. Bluestone's strengths have always been directing, acting, camera work, and plot. Those are what make Bluestone videos worth buying.

No, it's not the special effects. It's the quality of the production and the costs of these first rate actresses. A full crew costs money, whereas we can shoot all in one room (location) with a skeleton crew and shave off substantial costs. The result will be a drop in the production values, but we are looking at all of these options. We simply have to re-tool and set up future productions in a way that they will pay for themselves... one way or the other.

Once our November shoot in over, we'll be making some decisions and reporting them here.

Blue

Thanks for replying! As I think back, many of my favorites of your superheroine videos were done in small sets, like Superkick vs Wonderkick and Supernova 4.

[Director B]

All very interesting views, if you haven't spoken up yet please do.

[xj900uk]

You know where I stand, Director B and Blue. Just to add though - I find you two just about the most professional of the 'independent' producers out there. Going forward though, what might help you to sell more is to listen to the fans, although having alternate endings is a lovely touch (don[t know anyone els eout there who does that); also a few non-strangling demises in the alternates would help boost sales & interest - you know how I prefer headshots, but at the same time I accept that there are a lot of fans who enjoy seeing belly stabs or navel shots rather than the traditional slow strangulation.

[Director B]

The Question: what do you really think of the situation involving Blue's stand on things. Is he going in the right direction, was it right to ask you to Crowd Fund for videos that wasn't made yet, did you contribute to the crowdfunding videos, would you prefer just death fetish videos rather than Superheroine ones, was production value important to you, will you miss the likes of Wondra, Supernova, Darkwing, etc, would you like to see more White Angel videos, would you like to see new original heroines, would you like things to remain as is, do you welcome change, as I keep stressing it's very important we hear your views because if you don't speak up we can't give you what you want.

[Director B]

Well I can't blame you for trying to fund these videos before they are made. Paying for the content you want to see makes sense but you basically went from 20$ to double or more. I personally can afford to contribute for all the content items I want but others may not. I have been unhappy with a video that I have purchased from every producer in the genre at one time or another and perhaps some people don't want to take that chance. Honestly I think it should have worked and there is no doubt that these are the best videos in the superheroine genre, just lacking some of the nudity.

Hi rockastan05, thanks for your comment, I would like to make it clear to this community that I personally will not get involved in a video that has full nudity. I will not participate in a video that depicts rape either. Yes it is true we do topless from time to time but that's where I drew the line, I can't speak for Blue I'm sure he has boundaries but that's for him to tell. There are plenty of productions companies that do have rape and heroines sucking dicks so if that's what you're after then you can find them, they out number videos like ours. I am not condoning them nor the people that buy them but for me, I am saddened by the fact that our films get mixed up with these films, people see a still from one of our movies and think it's hardcore porn. Yes, our films can be deemed as erotic, I'd like to think of our films focusing on sexy erotic peril just passing the line of what is considered mainstream, some call it torture porn but I think that's too harsh and the wrong term to label our films, the one thing we are not is hard hardcore porn. Remember I am not speaking for Blue or the Bluestone company, this is just me.

[xj900uk]

I actually like the superheroine & White Angel series of videos, as they fill a nice niche in the market being extremely well made production-wise as well as not going OTT into hard-core porn territory. You definitely pump up the glamour-end of the fetish spectrum with your productions. Personally I also feel there is maybe too much strangulation, but Blue & Director B do put in the odd different demise like stabbing or shooting. Having two alternate endings was a big step in the right direction, as it allows for the story-arc to continue one way and a good fatality the other.

Re money making, breaking even and getting funding in advance for movies not made... that, whilst I can understand BLue's desire to at least break even, I still can't help but think he went about it the wrong way. Big O I know has had some success with advance funding, but that was done slightly differently. And offering all the different fetish elements but then saying that only the most popular ones would be incorporated, meant that people were bidding on a movie containing a scene they desperately wanted to see, and being asked to pay for it in advance with no guarantee that the scene would actually be in there (eg Chloro). Having said all of that, Blue has promised that his final productions will try to incorporate as many different elements as possible that were mentioned or asked for in the crowd-funding, for which I am eternally grateful.

[Director B]

I actually like the superheroine & White Angel series of videos, as they fill a nice niche in the market being extremely well made production-wise as well as not going OTT into hard-core porn territory. You definitely pump up the glamour-end of the fetish spectrum with your productions. Personally I also feel there is maybe too much strangulation, but Blue & Director B do put in the odd different demise like stabbing or shooting. Having two alternate endings was a big step in the right direction, as it allows for the story-arc to continue one way and a good fatality the other.

Re money making, breaking even and getting funding in advance for movies not made... that, whilst I can understand BLue's desire to at least break even, I still can't help but think he went about it the wrong way. Big O I know has had some success with advance funding, but that was done slightly differently. And offering all the different fetish elements but then saying that only the most popular ones would be incorporated, meant that people were bidding on a movie containing a scene they desperately wanted to see, and being asked to pay for it in advance with no guarantee that the scene would actually be in there (eg Chloro). Having said all of that, Blue has promised that his final productions will try to incorporate as many different elements as possible that were mentioned or asked for in the crowd-funding, for which I am eternally grateful.

Hi xj900uk, I think your comments has merit, I will be discussing this matter fully with him face to face next week. I'm sure he'll let you know the outcome in due course.

[xj900uk]

Thanx, Director B. As I said before, although retired and not in good health I am willing to help with yours & Blue's productions going into 2017 in any way that I can as I think they genuinely have merit and deserve to be produced and made available.

[Director B]

There is no like button, but if there was I'd like the last 2 posts, thanks guys.

[xj900uk]

Any time, Director B. You and Bluestone deserve it.

[Bluestone]

Hi Guys,

Just to chip in my two cents, although I have done full nudity in my crime videos, I have always drawn the line at hard core porn. I simply am not interested in going down that road... and will not be doing so. No rape, sexual acts (other than perhaps implied), and no brutal torture scenes. It's not what I'm about. I'm about sexy films featuring beautiful women who are either in peril or actually die, but die beautiful... not beaten to a pulp. So, whether I make money or not, I WILL NOT be doing hard core porn.

I will be discussing future plans with Director B face-to-face next week as we have not had the opportunity to discuss Bluestone's future in detail. So, he's as much in the dark as all of you. I can tell you that the Indiegogo crowd funding, whether you liked the way it was set up or not, was a very important learning experience for me. It was frustrating for all of us, because it demonstrated that there were simply not enough fans in this community and the SH peril community alone who were willing or able to support future productions like those that we've been producing over the past couple of years. The solution plain and simple is to widen the fanbase, and to do that we have to appeal to a wider audience. Coupled with that, we will have to find ways to save on production costs. Since we're not going to go the porn route, we will go in the other direction and appeal to the world outside the FF walls. Not to worry, there will be versions for the Extreme and Peril markets, but the Indiegogo campaigns made it clear that our crowd funding has to target a much wider marketplace.

By the way, I have had discussions with Big O regarding the success of his SuperSeven series and the spin-off Sandra West Diaries series, and these discussions have been very useful. I thank him for his kind assistance during my research.

So, in short, I'm doing my best to continue to bring this community the best SH adventures that we can, but I'll still need everyone to do their part as our 2017 project is unveiled, even if it's only to drive traffic to our new YouTube site. Every little bit will help in making the Bluestone Superheroine future bright!

Blue

[xj900uk]

Hi Guys,

Just to chip in my two cents, although I have done full nudity in my crime videos, I have always drawn the line at hard core porn. I simply am not interested in going down that road... and will not be doing so. No rape, sexual acts (other than perhaps implied), and no brutal torture scenes. It's not what I'm about. I'm about sexy films featuring beautiful women who are either in peril or actually die, but die beautiful... not beaten to a pulp. So, whether I make money or not, I WILL NOT be doing hard core porn.

Blue

That's good to know, Blue. I was concerned that you might have to take the harder road in order to broaden your appeal and sales-base.

[rayman]

I would say one major flaw in prefunding for Bluestone is the quantity of videos being produced.

A single campaign every 3 or more months might suceed.

I contributed what is a lot o fmoeny to me and I have contributed to all Bluestone campaigns in the past as well.

I suspect there are a lot of buyers that simply pick and choose what they buy very carefuly so woul dnot contribute unless they were 100% sure they would enjoy the content an dthen others who really are not too fussed about the videos as they believe the producers make a fortune and will keep making them no matter what happens.

I stand by my first comment on this thread that the campaign varied greatly from the discussion thread about a new Melody Skye video.

Obviously I am unaware of why things blew up the way they did but I think things could of been done better and the results may well have also been better.

But I remain abig fan and wil carry on putting in what money I can as the videos are outstanding.

[Bluestone]

I would say one major flaw in prefunding for Bluestone is the quantity of videos being produced.

A single campaign every 3 or more months might suceed.

Actually, that's what we're looking at doing. There will be one new continuing series that will feature many heroines within the same universe and all-encompassing storyline. The campaign will either fund 1, 2 or hopefully 3 episodes in this new series, and they will take place as one campaign every 3 or so months. We hope to produce about 12 episodes a year, but everything will, of course, depend on the success of the first campaign that will be kicked off at Kickstarter around Feb 2017.

Now, I can't tell you any more until Director B and I get together next week to brainstorm further. We are planning to keep Melody and Melanie in the mix as well as a UK actress or two... or three...

Blue

[markmarr]

I could certainly do a $100.00 or $120.00 every three months.