Welcome Back, Geno!

[Chris B]

All I can say is wow. Well Geno only you know what goes on inside your head and your computer. To each there own. I definitely will not fall back into the trap of being made to feel I am less of a person, or fetishist, because of the frequency I am on the forums, especially being ill, and during the holidays. Probably best to be done with me. I will go ahead and stay behind the scenes where I am more needed and loved. CB

[speak376]

blue i am not hear to start any kind of fight with anyone. i just want to get the situation resolved.

[Bluestone]

blue i am not hear to start any kind of fight with anyone. i just want to get the situation resolved.

I know. Just having some fun. No harm meant.

I hope you can resolve your issue with Geno and get back on the 'other' board.

Blue

[speak376]

i HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS A HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEARS!!!!

[Indrid Cold]

Pandora, why do you keeping opening the box?

[Geno]

I Did Not Expect to Return to this Thread, but
I do have an announcement regarding the Christopher Brown/ Grace X
double teamers.

First the Greetings.

Ah Ingrid Cold aka Vladnos! --- look who slithered in after months on no posting on FF. Only to tell Pandora not to open her own box. Take a stab at trying to run you own message board, and see how hard it is even to get it off the ground. It's her business and she can open any of her own boxes anytime she wants. Yes, you completed a well deserved forced, 14, vacation for cussing a DS member out, and expressing severe anger on that board. Smudger was wondering, not that he cares in the least ( and neither to I) why you had been gone so long from here (FF). Well the when you next vacation happens I want you to come here and filed a complaint with Bluestone. Be sure to ask him like this.
"Duh? duh.. Bluestone...Geno just put me on vacation for attacking one of your advertisements. It was only about you and one of your actresses, some old woman named Peetra...Petra from the Netherland. Really Bluestone I did not mean any harm to your AD or the "B" when I called her you both a piece of SH"..So that Geno put me on vacation for the 12 time and for 2 weeks. Just tell me on thing Bluestone and I will be ok before I go back in two weeks...Do you feel sorry for me?"-- a would be Vladnos

Speak--- Yes we go it solved, and you finally reach me via both lines of communications. Like I said post text freely, but don't flood and use the emjoos..just don't flood. thanks.


Yes men you heard it right. Grace X is banned from Our Message Board over there("Deadskirts").
She still has an account but it is on "vacation" until futher notice and her avatar says Banned from DeadSkirts".... Today GraceX proved to be too much for me. I am in a mentally depressed state and I have to protect myself as best I can as may have to give up the fetish publically. I have shared a lot of very intimate detailing fact about my lose of stamina over the months and dips in and out of depress over the fantasy female death fetish. Also my struggle with God and moral values over the expression of this fetish. Today she made another thread to reduce of stop her posting on DeadSkirts when she found that I had posted some reference to her Fet Noir site being a porn board...which it is, now that I can speak freely about it and her.

When I would tell her about my real struggle and pain over this erotic fetish, she would only reply how she is not bounded by any moral values and has a strong animosity toward her resistant to her alleged upbringing of strong religious teaching. That does not help me in the least. It only show a selfish, self center woman who going on like bulldozer doing whatever she wants to do, as long as it feels good.

I have always felt to this day Dec 30, 2016, that when GraceX appeared on DeadSkirts, even though she would show superior knowledge about many aspects of the fetish-only subjects, like True black and white Film Noir, her heart really was not into it. She had what I would "porn calling". A porn calling" is when you are not getting enough xxx porn, one want to return to the sites where there is much more xxx-porn about cum, rape/murder fantasy subjects like the one that are so prevalent on FN.

Well Christopher Brown--- Believe it or not, you are not banned from DeaddSkirts. They day you stop wallowing in your own grief , get up like a man, and email me with timely communications we can reach a deal for you to return to DS with AD powers..Use the same vigor you put in those very mechanical detailed description you post of your XXX videos on NicheClips......but if you are just laying around like beached whale feeling sorry for yourself and not getting the help you need, ..posting back to me once every 56 days. That is not going to hit it. You should also do something about that violent temper of yours, or one of this day you could land in jail or prison if you hurt or kill someone. Just a suggestion Christopher Brown.

Geno

[Indrid Cold]

you completed a well deserved forced, 14, vacation for cussing a DS member out

You fail to mention that the member I got banned for "cussing out" was myself! I asked if I was allowed to flame myself, so I put it to the test, and, voila - I was banned for flaming myself, which I think is absolutely hilarious! Well worth the 14-day hiatus!

[Arthur]

I have known Grace X for four years, and I know for certain she is motivated by high moral principles which I see displayed on a daily basis through her selfless acts of kindness and caring for others.

[Indrid Cold]

I concur with Arthur's sentiments.

Oh, and just to make things clear, the Pandora's box comment was in reference to Bluestone un-banning Geno again.

[xj900uk]

I still think this is all a storm in a tea-cup or B-Cup...

Whilst I do agree that on FN there is a fair amount of necro-sex and porn, there is far more of normal death fetish material (I would say it's about 35/65). And Chris B, whilst yes he does make some movies which are xxx-rated, he's also made some good ones which are straight dead-skirts stuff and they have been very good, I have applauded him for this. John M too.
If all of FN was necro-sex and porn then Geno's comments might have more merit, but, quite frankly, only a lesser % of it is...

[Bluestone]

I, for one, whole-heartedly support GraceX and Chris Brown for all that they've done for this community... and, yes, that's the true death fetish community. You couldn't find two people who have been more supportive of this fetish and this community. Sure, Chris and others feel that they have to add XXX porn to their product line in order to survive. It doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree with their choice, but it does not change the fact that GraceX and Chris are valued members of this community.

Geno has the right to his opinion, but (at least on this board) we do not all have to agree with it. LOL!

Just sayon'

Blue

[Grace X]

Blue, xj, Indrid, Arthur, and of course Chris, thank you. I truly appreciate your kind words and thoughts. And I love our community...needless to say, I'll continue to be an active and exited part of it wherever I can, even if I can no longer contribute at DS. (It's coming up on Masterson Award season again, dear Blue, where your film work was wonderfully lauded last year, and I have no doubt will be again!)

Geno hon, of course you have the right to ban me from DS, and I bear you no ill will. As you know from our many talks I dislike being marginalized with the label "porn person", as I enjoy so many aspects of our passions in this community, from old Film Noir, to thrillers, to comics and literature, to wonderfully diverse conversation. Though to keep the record as straight as it can be, the main discomfort I expressed to you privately was due to your "roaches and rats" comment in regard to our mutual member/friends, which made it hard for me to feel comfortable there at DS, after hoping to grow our relationship based on mutual respect.

But I've no wish to dwell on that -- I'll miss you and the many interesting (and often fun) experiences we have had together. And as I have said both publicly and in private, I wish you health and happiness in your life.

[Geno]

I have known Grace X for four years, and I know for certain she is motivated by high moral principles which I see displayed on a daily basis through her selfless acts of kindness and caring for others.

Not impressed Author. I have known GraceX longer than you Author. You have only known the front she puts on for the public. I had gotten really close and trusting with her this year on level not known to you. Author you have no mental issues that you have shared with her. I am not a well man and am fighting depression in this fetish. It is probably not any direct fault of GraceX's, but one must remember that GraceX is not a psychologist, psychiatrist, or mental therapist. Even then, the question would be is she out to help or hurt me. So she may think that playing with a person's emotions is just some kind of game, when depending on how troubled they are, her actions could be detrimental to them.

The public has seen just how insensitive and cold-blooded GraceX has been in the past to the needs of one woman that was in far deeper mental anguish that I ever was. Just like me, that woman got close to GraceX too, but it would be the biggest mistake of her life to trust GraceX. I am referring to the beloved iconic female member named "Kelli". Kelli found DeadSkirts to be too much for her as a moderator, and defected from the site and became a member of Fetnoir in her severely damaged mental state, and GraceX made her a moderator over there, after me telling her "don't do it". Poor Miss Kelli was then bombarded by porn request, and exposed to large dark pits of fantasy rape/torture/murder when at heart, she was a fetish-only-girl.

Kelli spiraled into deep depression and finally fled FetNoir, also. GraceX remained steadfast and gave all her members false hopes that Kelli was only taking a hiatus (vacation) and would return someday and be told to take over her moderator duties again. I, on the other hand, I did not expect her to return ever, but if she did, there would be NO moderator duties for her, whether she wanted them or not. For her own good, she would never would make "DS" moderator again. Now word is coming out that Kelli may even be dead, yet GraceX waits today with the hope of putting Kelli back in the moderator chair of a fantasy rape/murder porn message board, instead of telling her "no you can not and should be moderator of this kind of a message board." Talk about using someone to they are burned up completely, then tossing them aside.

The reasons for GraceX being prohibited from "DeadSkirts" for at least a few months, is uniquely personal. It because she had gotten to close to me and far too much trust was put into her about my mental health. Yet she chooses to play game and send me and email saying she is going to reduce her postings on DeadSkirts ...or stop for while because of me. It was like a kick in the stomach. GraceX would have done better not to email me with any email when she only had negative things to say. If she succeeds in bringing me down, even accidently, it could mean the end of "DeadSkirts". So number one I have to protect myself and to a lessor extent I have to protect the message board.

GraceX has really never looked at the Christopher Brown/Geno situation objectively. GraceX holds me to a standard far greater than Mr. Brown could ever meet. I wanted to hear from Christopher Brown in private but he won't e-mail me, and part of his gang, lead by Grace continuously don't not call him on his failures to communicate, and keep on manufacturing excuses for him.

Explaining the Porn-Calling A Little More --- If does not matter if it's 40% xxx porn. There is a lot of it over at FN, and GraceX need not post on it to enjoy it. GraceX can just read about the rape/torture murders and enjoy it. To be surrounded by it is good enough in many cases. I am sure that "DS" can no longer provide that level of xxx-porn satisfaction that she wants. Does not matter if is labeled or not, it is THERE .period. If you don't see enough on it one site, you move on to another site, simple.

GraceX ---That is good if what you say is true, that you do not hold any animosity toward me, and if you honestly believe I am just protecting my fragile mental state from hearing your harassing e-mails. IF you cared about my health you would have skipped that last e-mail. You said you had not posted in the last 2 weeks on "deadskirts". I did not even notice. I thought you were taking my advice..."Post when you want too"....."leave a post when you do not wish to say anything more". I could have went through the explanation rounds with you again and apologized but I needed instant "pain relief" and found it by suspending you indefinitely.

Still wondering why would you threaten to leave all your friends on DeadSkirts on all those different threads, that I have never responded to? My problems I shared with your are personal, has nothing to do with your contribution the story board, or the many threads, I had no interest in. When a member acts like that, I think he or she really wants to leave the ("DS") message board, but does not want leave on their on their own, they want to be forced out. Sort of a guilt complex. If ("deadskirts") was a xxx porn board, I don't think you ever would have sent that threat to' run away' e-mail yesterday. Still I am doing what I have to protect myself from you. I hope you understand that.

Sincerely Geno

[Arthur]

My name is Arthur, not Author. I am sorry to hear you are not well and fighting depression. I also fought depression in my life, so I know how difficult that can be, and I hope you find a speedy recovery.

I was a member of FetNoir when Kelli was moderator, and I had many conversations with both Kelli and Grace during that time period. It is true Grace still hopes Kelli will return some day. However, I do not believe for one instant that Grace is "insensitive and cold-blooded" or that she used up Kelli and then tossed her aside as you claim. Sadly, Kelli had some bad experiences in her outside life that occurred long before FetNoir was created. Grace and FetNoir are not responsible for creating or deepening Kelli's depression nor is it fair to accuse Grace of exploiting Kelli.

[Geno]

I'll just call you Mr. A or joe, because I don't play grammar correction games with anyone. You just don't listen Mr. 'A', and you wish to prop up a dead woman in the webmaster chair at Fet noir. I tell you Kelli is never coming back. She can not come back. You will not find her any of the sinful fetish board, or Christian boards of any type. Kelli is gone for good. Then again if you are hopeful that the late Carrie Fisher will come back and play in future movies and write some more books, I won't be able to convince you that Kelli is gone for good. So keep waiting inside the graveyard for her.

Of course Kelli was responsible for her own actions. She did good by defecting from DeadSkirts, but she ran to a place that was 100 times worst and was then the Brown/Grace gang ran a violent xxx violent porn site. Kelli was always getting upset at the stories, photos, Brown videos, and artwork that showed pure hatred toward women an as she put it. Women to be raped, and strangled like a cat, and toss aside, and then spit on. The everso dangerous GraceX then had a moral responsibility that she dramatically failed in with dealing with Kelli. That was not to allow Kelli to be a moderator over there. It like a good friend, whom the doctor has told not to drink any Booze whatsoever or it will kill him, and every time you show up Mr. A at his house you have fifth of Jack Daniels whiskey in your hand as a calling card when you know it not good for him! Grace committed the same crime with Kelli, until there was nothing left of her and she fled the porn site. Good for her...but she left too late.

Yes I do think GraceX has lost a lot moral ground over the years. She showing near atheistic contempt for her religious values. Here is a some GraceX said on DeadSkirts, back in 2012...in public, that might explain the lost of sensitivity toward other who are had gotten too close to her like kelli I did........

"My Catholic-girl upbringing prejudiced me a lot against religion, and that is sad. Because there were so many things I loved about it, too. But to this day I see red when I am told that my sexual pleasure, whether through my death fetish fantasies, masturbation, or through intercourse is something that “good girls” repress and despise. I cannot believe that anything so wonderful as orgasmic pleasure is given to us as a source of negative temptation and shame. --- Grace X on June 12, 2012." on ("DeadSkirts") board archives

Anyone with the least bit of moral values knows the just because something feels good, does not make it right. You can not continue to do things simply because it feels good. Yes Grace does that. I think it will lead to her one way ticket to Hell for her.

Bluestone --- I strongly disagree with you. The GraceX / Christopher Brown gang has not contributed much to the community. I think their actions have been more detrimental that helpful. JohnM and other like Pycho-Thrillers and many other are now, are in complicity too. They help push the porn invasion to overshadow the fantasy female death fetish. Most fetish lover complain today they are not getting what they want in custom-video. Great shootings, great fetish only work, good interesting fast paced story lines, beautiful costumes. We don't get that from producers like Christopher Brown. Oh sure he will slop together the occasional fetish only video, but it will be poorly made and he run through with poor camera work, and few ranchy costumes and G-strings....just to get on the fetish-only score card...then he go back to make a the rape murder scene of a terrified school girl type and necrophila scenes their after.

XXX Porn producer JohnM does the same thing, but if you must have violent porn he is the best in non-fetish visual aspects. He really know how to get the best camera shots and sound with porn only. However, JohnM goes to sleep at the wheel when it comes to fetish, even when he put the fetish and mixing with porn as he did in 9mm Necro blow job.

Geno