Debbie D insult

[jafa]

Rather than risk the accusation of hi-jacking a thread, I post my query and observations separately. Not sure where the "punk ass" remark associated with Debbie D originated, but it sounded like Geno was insulting models again. Oooops, it was written by Bluestone, who like former friend Geno is owner and operator of his own (this) board. It seems Mr Blue is not subject to the rules of civility like the friend he banned forever.

My query? How dare anybody label Debbie D as "punk-ass" in any video in which she appears. Here is a well-known and beloved actress of lengthy acting experience. She is capable of playing any part, anywhere, for any producer.

Mr Blue, please reconsider your remarks and apologize.

respectful

Macjafa

[Nightposter]

Mr Jafa,
Please re read the posting. Mr Blue has stated it was his impression of the subject that Debbie was playing that he referred to as "punk ass" and that in spite of the script she attempted to play it well. However that type of subject is not his cup of tea, so he declined to watch the performance any further.
Mr Blue has further stated that he has been in contact with Ms D since that statement, as she will be shooting with him in the near future, and there has been no protest from her.

Unless there is a posted protest from her directly ( she is a posting member here ) this matter should be over.

[Bluestone]

The Bluestone Debbie D shoot is a Go for mid to late October! I will be shooting some of my material with her, i.e. casting her as a glamourous actress as opposed to the punk ass girls that other producers have her play. Debbie is a very good actress and deserves some parts that she can sink her teeth into...

Jafa,

Thank you for starting a new thread and not further hijacking the one that your friend Pennpaul messed up with his attacks on my remarks above.

Now, please re-read my comments above to which you both took offence to on behalf of Debbie D, but without her request or consent. I know this because I was in email communication with her throughout Pennpaul's postings, and provided her with a link to the thread of which she was not aware. Debbie was very distressed that she was the topic of such controversy, but I assured her that Pennpaul just obviously completely misinterpreted my remarks, and we moved forward with our shoot arrangements. Now, Pennpaul's friend seems to have drawn the same wrong conclusion from my remarks, which makes it appear to me that there is a conspiracy afoot. Will John Matrix be next to wade in and accuse me of something that I never said... an insult that was never made? What is your agenda, jafa? Last time, it was Matrix and Pennpaul trying to disrupt this board to attack their competitor, Paul of KHP, because Geno couldn't get back on this board to do so.

Anyway, Jafa, since it appears that you cannot read simple English, I will assist you by breaking down my remarks into short, simple phrases. Here goes: "...casting her as a glamourous actress as opposed to the punk ass girls that other producers have her play". Now, it is clear to anyone with a rudimentary command of the English language that I was referring to the roles that producers, such as Pennpaul, has cast Debbie as, NOT referring to Debbie herself at all. Now, the immediately following sentence states, "Debbie is a very good actress and deserves some parts that she can sink her teeth into". That is a compliment, jafa, not an insult. How you could have completely misunderstood my remarks is beyond me, but you have, and in so doing you have insulted me, accused me of insulting an actress who I only have great respect for, and maligned the way that this entire board is operated.

So, sir, I hereby demand an apology from you and from Pennpaul for your attacks on my character and your complete fabrication of an insult on my part that never existed. If the said apologies are not posted on this thread within 24 hours, my patience will be at an end and all conspirators will be suspended from this site indefinitely. Oh, I guess I have to spell it out for you, taking into account your inability to understand the written word.

Conspirators against this board, being Pennpaul, John Matrix and Jafa, shall be suspended indefinitely from FF and their FF advertising privileges cancelled unless the requested apology is posted on this thread by at least one of the conspirators on behalf of the others within 24 hours. This disruption of the peaceful community atmosphere of this board must stop now, and it will stop now! End of story.

Blue
Site Administrator

[jafa]

Whoa, Nightposter and Bluestone, no need to get so nasty and threatening unless you do wish to emulate Geno. I thought that this is a free speech board wherein members may post opinion and counter opinions. Your responses seem to indicate that this may not be true.

I standby my interpretation that Mr Blue has insulted Debbie, and at least three times in the thread. After the opening insult, I believe that Pennpaul pointed out that Ms Debbie chose the videos in the "sampler". Thus Mr Blue has expanded his insults to include Debbie's selection of her works. Further, Mr Blue indicated that he did not complete and would not view the "sampler". In my book that is another insult to Ms Debbie.

While I agree with Pennpaul that Mr Blue has tried to contact Debbie, I would suggest that Mr Blue refrain from trying to state what she replied, if she did indeed reply. Perhaps we should all wait for Debbie to post if and when she may have time. I doubt seriously that this board is at all important to her life and career.

In a word, Mr Blue, no apology is forthcoming.

macjafa

[tOkie]

OK

rather than hijack a thread, already bludgeoned by crude misunderstandings (aka: spoilin' for a fight) by pennpaul, there is need to begin a completely different thread with even more crude...NO...with more spoilin' for a fight accusations.

WHY???


*because*


some people have not the reading comprehension abilities of an elementary school student.




I will point out, however, that there was definite insult.

That insult was directed at the PRODUCERS that cast said person in the roles.


Now: let those (producers, so that you who want to fight, understand) that were insulted come in and comment. Everyone else not in the noted description, have nothing to offer.



Post threads that are interesting and pertinent to the forum or else STFU!

[elsullo]

Bluestone, it's just my opinion, but I think you are completely in the right here. Your words are clear, you insulted nobody, and this seems to be a fabricated attack by unfriendly people just to stir up unpleasantness for fun. Either that or a lot of stupifying alcohol is involved. You ARE owed an apology!

NUKE THEM, for the sake of the board as a whole. You don't need to put up with any of this crap. Just my opinion......................elsullo

[Bluestone]

There is an underlying issue here that is painfully obvious to me, and I think many of the members here. I gave you both 24 hours to apologize, and I'll stand by that timetable, unless things get more out of hand before then. So, let's say 3:00 pm EST on Sunday, October 4th.

In the meantime, I am open to comments from any other members on this issue, and I'm not just talking about the Debbie D insult that never occured... I'm talking about the underlying issue here, and that is the on-going conspiracy to disrupt this board. I am personally sick of this issue, and I thought it was at an end when Geno and I decided to make peace between the boards, but the conspirators do not seem to want it to stop. They seem to be intent on attacking the administration and members of this board, as opposed to contributing positively to this community. Perhaps, it's just me, but I don't go to DS any more, not even to advertize, because I'm sick and tired of all of the in-fighting. I believe the majority of members here want to enjoy the erotic elements here. So, bear with me one more time. I will be starting a simple poll, so that I don't make a decision in a vacuum. I will respond to the above threads in greater detail thereafter.

Blue

[tOkie]

I say: you have set the timetable and that is that.

Granted, I have just recently joined here, I am NOT happy with the continual posting of threads having nothing in common with the forum.


That said, I await the clicking away of the clock.

[shootingmad]

I say its about time Pennpaul, Jafa and John Matrix (if he ever returns back) get kicked out of here.

we have free speech. But that is a luxury, not a right in a private board. So, pack up your stuff and go whine some place else.

[EvilBilly]

I agree with Shootingmad; 4P, Jafa and John Matrix don't contribute anything of any merit. No one likes to exclude or ostracize anyone intentionally, but these antics have gone on for too long.

[EvilBilly]

4P = 4F

[Bluestone]

The poll is up, and the people have about 22.5 hours to vote. Sorry about the snap election, folks, but as Shootingmad said no one wants to exclude others, but the posts of the members in question speak for themselves. Now I like a good discussion as well as the next guy, but what was raised wasn't a discussion, it was an accusation and fabrication meant to use Debbie D's wonderful reputation against me, just as others tried to make Paul of KHP, and I by association, into Dr. Don bashers. I have extremely high regard for both Debbie D and Dr. Don. You don't see either of them making accusations. So, what gives the Trio of Terror the right to talk for these icons? Nothing, except the desire to use the reputations of others to further their own petty agendas.

Now, I've never run from a fight, so here's my challenge. Hopefully, FF will soon be free of these malcontents. They will complain on DS that their rights of free speech have been unjustly squelched. Well, guess what, so were mine on DS. So, let them plead with Geno to let me back on DS to meet their accusations there. I'd be pleased to take all three of them on in a knock down drag out debate/flame war. Three against one... bring it on!

As for FF, we will NOT be encouraging or hosting flame wars. This is a peaceful community, and the palace guard will ensure that it remains that way.

So, feel free to vote. Oh, before you go to the polls, everyone is invited for free drinks at the Bluestone mansion!!! What??? Did I hear someone accuse me of trying to influence the vote??? Well......... ya, guilty as charged... What? Of course the bar is still open

Politician Blue

[tOkie]

Granted, I have just recently joined here, I am NOT happy with the continual posting of threads having nothing in common with the forum.

*THIS* post is directed at YOU, jafa.

I will also ask that YOU, pennpaul, feel it is equally pointed in your direction.






It is NOT about the "disruption" of this board nor: is it about anyone here becoming like anyone on any other board.

It *IS* about, just as if I was a guest in your home, MANNERS.

Please, have the MANNERS to take your piss poor attitudes OUT of the general forum.

Let us all get back to the discussions that this board allows us to enjoy.

[Max5s]

Dear Debbie D,

I believe we are at a crossroads on this forum as to whether or not you feel insulted by by a reference to some of the characters you have portrayed as being "punk ass". I not sure I would consider that an insult if that is what you were asked to play and subsequently played the part well. It seems to be just a character type. Please share your opinion on the matter and assist us in putting this matter to rest before tempers flare in a manner that benefits no one.

Max

[Max5s]

Answering your request is up to Debbie. Do you wish me to convey a copy of your message, above. ??

4P

If Debbie was offended, I would like to hear it from her directly. It's my understanding that she can access this forum. Once she has stated her response, then I think she and Blue can come to terms with each other if they haven't already.