Idea for a new 'Supervillainess'

[xj900uk]

Festive Greetings to everyone!
Blue and myself have been discussing behind the scenes, the possibility of introducing a new major female supervillain in 2018, complete with her own separate movie series.
Blue doesn't know if the idea would sell sufficiently, so please consider this thread a dip in the market to see if anyone is interested or might consider buying such a movie series. Also it's a good place for people to come forward and suggest what they might like to see in a new major and regular/recurring supervillainess character.

The way I envisage her (let's call her 'Midnyght'), would be as a superfit (but with no special powers as such) cat-type burglar and assassin who normally stalks her prey and then takes great delicious and sado-sexual delight in slowly despatching her targets - which, for the purposes of the movie series, would nearly always be a young, beautiful and innocent young woman, although she might have the odd bodyguard or boyfriend who also need ot be disposed of.
Midnyght also likes to record her kills with a hidden camera, both as proof to her employer of the successful deed being carried out, but also for her to play back and enjoy in her own personal, private time.

Well, are there any takers out there for such a villainess? After a couple of movies, there is no reason why she can't go up toe-2-toe with one of the Amazonians, or possibly a Supernova heroine.
What would you like to see in such an evil, wicked and sadistic beautiful supervillainess?

[wc744]

Sounds like a great idea xj..

[The Squeezer Women]

Hello there the idea sound very good, a female villain dispatched her victims males/females is also my style I want both heroine and villain (female) and Mink could be the first villain, she has that special touch, I have required a custom video (another website) 2 days ago with this stuff,
a female assassin shutting down the rivalry from male assassins.

[xj900uk]

THanks for your support, Mr WC and Squeezer Women, much appreciated.
Yes, I was thinking that Blue's superheroine series needs a really evil, nasty villainess/assassin as a semi-regular - he's had these before, but what about if the super-villainess had her own series and she bumped off innocent, soft targets. She could be going after both sexes, but obviously Blue would only shoot what happens with her female victims which wouldn't necessarily be super-powered in any form.
She would also be shown taking her time over killing them as this is how she gets her kicks so wants to enjoy the moment for as long as possible, which also then gives Blue and Mr B the excuse to shoot some protracted drawn-out death scenes (not necessarily strangle, although I'd have thought roughly 50% of them would be some form of throttling or other...)

I hadn't considered any actress specifically for the role but Mink could definitely fill the boots of 'Midnyght', she also looks great in a catsuit too!

[Director B]

THanks for your support, Mr WC and Squeezer Women, much appreciated.
Yes, I was thinking that Blue's superheroine series needs a really evil, nasty villainess/assassin as a semi-regular - he's had these before, but what about if the super-villainess had her own series and she bumped off innocent, soft targets. She could be going after both sexes, but obviously Blue would only shoot what happens with her female victims which wouldn't necessarily be super-powered in any form.
She would also be shown taking her time over killing them as this is how she gets her kicks so wants to enjoy the moment for as long as possible, which also then gives Blue and Mr B the excuse to shoot some protracted drawn-out death scenes (not necessarily strangle, although I'd have thought roughly 50% of them would be some form of throttling or other...)

I hadn't considered any actress specifically for the role but Mink could definitely fill the boots of 'Midnyght', she also looks great in a catsuit too!

I must let you know xj900uk there's a rule in the Bluestone Universe - once an actress is used for a role within that universe she cannot be used as another character. So if your idea is set in the Bluestone Superheroine universe Mink cannot play another character because she is Catwarrior. It'll be like Melissa Benoist playing another character within the arrowverse, mind you, they do have a multi-universes thing in the arrowverse and the last crossover did have a bad Supergirl LOL! Also, it all depends on Mink - she may not want to do it. Another thing that has occurred is copyright, who will own the copyright on this character you or Bluestone, I guess you'll have to have a chat with Blue about that one.

[Ryan Hinto]

I like the idea. Two things I’m curious about:

1. Would the villainess ever die? Like would the peril ending be the villainess winning and the extreme version be the villainess dying? If that’s the case i would be very much interested

2. Why not make Catwarrior have a heel turn. If Catwarrior goes evil then you satisfy the idea of her being this villain in the catsuit and she doesn’t play a different character adhering to the rules of the Bluestone universe. And if Catwarrior is involved I’m extra extra interested

[Falleen]

Sounds really interesting xj900uk.
I know you're not a fan of the squirting orgasm (as most of you know by now I only buy videos featuring that fetish). I would like to see videos with a vixen, not just a heroine, whose demise would involve that fetish (especially if she's really nasty/twisted and would outwardly admit being turned on from her own demise). Or, having a vixen fight a White Angel like Lynda or Stephanie Knight with the video involving that fetish.
I know it's probably not what you're looking for, but these are elements that would have me (and probably many other, less vocal, fans) purchasing such videos.

[The Honey Badger]

I’ve recently been discussing my disappointment in the direction of Bluestone Productions in my thread at a different message board and I can say that this move is just another step in the wrong direction. Given board morale after the termination of the BSC Membership Club, I’ve been cautious about dissenting to suggestions, but I feel like this needs to be said. Your incessant attempts to privately influence the direction of Bluestone Productions into creating content that better suits your fantasies is single-handedly destroying my interest in his work and has forced me to re-evaluate my commitment to the studio. I really hate to be that guy, but assuming this goes through, I’ll be pulling my support from XJ Productions.

If you’re going to ask Bluestone to change things on your behalf, the very least you can do is to offset his risk by covering the cost. Since you seem to think this idea will work, pony up half of the production expense under the condition that the revenue from sales is split 50/50 until you’ve recouped your initial investment instead of just incepting Blue with an unconventional idea that could very realistically hemorrhage money from his studio.

[xj900uk]

It's only under discussion at the moment, Mr Badger. Blue and I discussed the idea privately, and he asked me to float it about the Forum to see if anyone is interested enough to take it forward.
Whilst I can understand you being upset about the direction Bluestone may be taking his superheroine productions in, Blue and Mr B are trying to operate it as a going concern and they need to make money from the sales of their movies, something which so far has proven rather difficult to do (thanks largely to piracy and illegal copywrite, but that's outside the scope of this argument). The point is, they need to listen to their paying public, the customers, to find out what they want to see and would be prepared to buy.
You aren't happy with this idea, along with several others that have been mooted lately around here (some of them by me), but the fact of the matter is that sales are struggling to cover costs, thanks to problems mentioned above, and Blue and Mr B need to find some way to both sell more movies and keep their Superheroine Business afloat (and stop piracy too).
At the moment it is just that, an 'idea' and nothing more. Floated around here to see how many people might be interested and if it would be worth taking it forward. if not enough people are interested then it won't be developed, period. It'll remain just that, a creative idea and suggestion that was never crystalised.
Blue and Mr B get lots of ideas and suggestions about their Superheroine movies. Heck, look at all the requests and appeals that happened regarding the privately-funded Melody Supernova Prime movie, which did get snipped in the end as Melody wasn't interested. Proof of interest in doing something, and it could have happened, but without Melody on board it won't move forward.
Sadly, the BSC was one way that actually started to take things forward, and it did seem to be working for a time, and there were lots of ideas and suggestions coming in from all the members; although again this got canned abruptly thanks again to Mr Pirate and illegaly distributing the movie without BLue's permission (or royalties). So we are rather back at Square 1 with that, sadly. I do agree with you though totally that morale was severely hit after this disclosure, and has yet to recover.

BTW for your information I have offered to help out Blue and Mr B behind the scenes for free, to try to reduce their overheads. It won't have been easy, seeing as I am extremely disabled and immobile, and they shoot over the other side of the Pond, but the offer was genuine as I have worked on the production side of things before. And yes, should this idea ever be taken forward, then again yes I would be prepared to help out in some way, shape or form. It's probably the least I can do.

Getting back to the proposed Supervillainess idea (and, Mr Badger, please feel free to say what you don't like about it - this is a discussion thread and Blue and Mr B want to listen to all shades of opinion, even those who think an idea or a proposal is a bad move), I am assuming if it ever gets green-lit then there will be multiple endings, and if there is enough interest one ending that has a squirt orgasm. I don't like them myself, but I accept that other people out there do, and Blue and Mr B are trying them to see if they do boost sales and support.

Re the possibility of Mink being a Supervillainess, yes if I close my eyes I think she could do it very sexily. Perhaps we could even write in that Catwarrior has a long-lost twin sister that has been raised as an evil sadistic contract killer (happens all the time in the Marvel and DC universes!) but I guess at the end of the day as Mr B says, it would all be down to Mink And Blue and Mr B if they ever want to actually film it.
Alternatively we could always have a new actress in, at the end of the day I honestly hadn't thought that far ahead.

And as regards copyright, I am not even going to dare thing that far ahead, at this stage!

[Director B]

I’ve recently been discussing my disappointment in the direction of Bluestone Productions in my thread at a different message board and I can say that this move is just another step in the wrong direction. Given board morale after the termination of the BSC Membership Club, I’ve been cautious about dissenting to suggestions, but I feel like this needs to be said. Your incessant attempts to privately influence the direction of Bluestone Productions into creating content that better suits your fantasies is single-handedly destroying my interest in his work and has forced me to re-evaluate my commitment to the studio. I really hate to be that guy, but assuming this goes through, I’ll be pulling my support from XJ Productions.

If you’re going to ask Bluestone to change things on your behalf, the very least you can do is to offset his risk by covering the cost. Since you seem to think this idea will work, pony up half of the production expense under the condition that the revenue from sales is split 50/50 until you’ve recouped your initial investment instead of just incepting Blue with an unconventional idea that could very realistically hemorrhage money from his studio.

What's XJ Productions?

[The Honey Badger]

Seeing as where his superheroine videos have difficulty enough breaking even WITH an established superheroine community, what makes you think that a video targeting an even more niche audience will be financially viable WITHOUT an existing community to support it - unless there’s some underground supervillainess community that I’m unaware of. Quite honestly, your suggestion comes off as either irresponsible or selfish in that you’re willing to damage Bluestone’s finances in order to pursue your own interests without assuming any of the risk.

What's XJ Productions?

XJ Productions is a poor attempt at satire given his is continuous attempts to influence the direction of Bluestone’s studio, both publicly and privately.

[Director B]

Seeing as where his superheroine videos have difficulty enough breaking even WITH an established superheroine community, what makes you think that a video targeting an even more niche audience will be financially viable WITHOUT an existing community to support it - unless there’s some underground supervillainess community that I’m unaware of. Quite honestly, your suggestion comes off as either irresponsible or selfish in that you’re willing to damage Bluestone’s finances in order to pursue your own interests without assuming any of the risk.

What's XJ Productions?

XJ Productions is a poor attempt at satire given his is continuous attempts to influence the direction of Bluestone’s studio, both publicly and privately.

Oh, LOL! I thought it was a real company.

[xj900uk]

Yeah he got me wondering if I'd formed a company at some point in the past and then clean forgotten about it...

Re his other point, please do let me know if you've ever found me willing to damage Bluestone's finances...
Some of my suggestions you and Blue go along with and try to incorporate (like otk boots, or more fights and action sequences), others you look at and decide are unfilmable or unsuitable. At the end of the day, it is up to you two...

[Rag82]

I was originally buying every pack of videos that came with the BSC. The price was great and you got all those cool outtakes so everything seemed worth it. Plus you were even allowed to ask for one single element in the film which guaranteed there would at least be something in there that tailored to your tastes.

However, even before the BSC was put to an end my morale went into the shitter as I found out that F/F stuff was pretty much off the table. I was willing to buy and support the M/F vids because the price was great, but even more so because I thought I would eventually get my F/F fix from the BSC. But alas, that was not to be the case because I guess they cost too much or don't make enough money. Well, that sucks, lol.

Anyway, if adding this villainess into the mix gets us some F/F action, I would be kind of cool with it. Being completely honest (and selfish) I am not a huge fan of innocent victims that can't really fight back. One of the main intriguing aspects for me regarding the Superheroine genre is that a fully powered and skilled female is beaten fair and square by her adversary. Not sure these new villainess movies would give me that.

Now, if you included alternate endings where the intended victim actually turns the tables on our villainess and kills her then I would be extremely excited. But if it's just a villainess killing a helpless female (or male) then it wouldn't really be down my alley.

Anyway, that is my completely biased and selfish opinion, lol. Good luck to Blue and Director B in whatever they decide to do. Even though your movies aren't really for me anymore they still seem like well made vids and deserve success regardless. Who knows, maybe one day F/F stuff will be worth making again, but not sure that will ever be the case. Take care.

[Director B]

I was originally buying every pack of videos that came with the BSC. The price was great and you got all those cool outtakes so everything seemed worth it. Plus you were even allowed to ask for one single element in the film which guaranteed there would at least be something in there that tailored to your tastes.

However, even before the BSC was put to an end my morale went into the shitter as I found out that F/F stuff was pretty much off the table. I was willing to buy and support the M/F vids because the price was great, but even more so because I thought I would eventually get my F/F fix from the BSC. But alas, that was not to be the case because I guess they cost too much or don't make enough money. Well, that sucks, lol.

Anyway, if adding this villainess into the mix gets us some F/F action, I would be kind of cool with it. Being completely honest (and selfish) I am not a huge fan of innocent victims that can't really fight back. One of the main intriguing aspects for me regarding the Superheroine genre is that a fully powered and skilled female is beaten fair and square by her adversary. Not sure these new villainess movies would give me that.

Now, if you included alternate endings where the intended victim actually turns the tables on our villainess and kills her then I would be extremely excited. But if it's just a villainess killing a helpless female (or male) then it wouldn't really be down my alley.

Anyway, that is my completely biased and selfish opinion, lol. Good luck to Blue and Director B in whatever they decide to do. Even though your movies aren't really for me anymore they still seem like well made vids and deserve success regardless. Who knows, maybe one day F/F stuff will be worth making again, but not sure that will ever be the case. Take care.

Well Rag82 you're in luck because the next White Angel adventure is an F vs F, staring Destiny and Yvonne this should blow your socks off... or will it? Hard to please people these days.