Idea for a new 'Supervillainess'

[The Honey Badger]

...Are you referring to the content? For me personally the productions have done nothing but get better. These action sequences are much better than the ten minute strangle vids that used to come out.

I take no issue with the material being produced and tend to agree with you about the action content, but that’s neither here nor there. My concern about the direction of the studio comes from what I perceive to be the continuous suggestive influence of a single vocal member which has led to an accumulation of concerns for me – one of which has killed my overall interest in the studio. Setting aside my preferences, I can say that I’m good at dealing with changes outside of my control, even at times when I don’t care for them, but I would be a lot more receptive to changes that have had a negative impact on my interest if I couldn’t attribute them all to one individual actively working behind the scenes. XJ, while you may look at your suggestions as inconsequential, the changes they’ve created are destroying my interest in Bluestone Productions.

[Director B]

...Are you referring to the content? For me personally the productions have done nothing but get better. These action sequences are much better than the ten minute strangle vids that used to come out.

I take no issue with the material being produced and tend to agree with you about the action content, but that’s neither here nor there. My concern about the direction of the studio comes from what I perceive to be the continuous suggestive influence of a single vocal member which has led to an accumulation of concerns for me – one of which has killed my overall interest in the studio. Setting aside my preferences, I can say that I’m good at dealing with changes outside of my control, even at times when I don’t care for them, but I would be a lot more receptive to changes that have had a negative impact on my interest if I couldn’t attribute them all to one individual actively working behind the scenes. XJ, while you may look at your suggestions as inconsequential, the changes they’ve created are destroying my interest in Bluestone Productions.

Badger, may I ask what you'll like to see in our productions? And if you have already stated it please remind us of what you want again. Also, tell us what you don't like and what XJ has suggests that we have shot that you have an issue with. Thanks.

[xj900uk]

Yes, please, Mr Badger, go for it - tell us what you'd like to see, and of the changes that Blue and Mr B have made recently in their productions that you don't like (irrespective of who has suggested or urged them), here's the place to voice them.
And, for the record, I am most definitely not the only person to have suggested changes or ideas for Bluestone's Superheroine productions. I accept I have made quite a few to Blue and Mr B, but to date only a few of them have actually been taken up to my personal knowledge.

[Rag82]

Well Rag82 you're in luck because the next White Angel adventure is an F vs F, staring Destiny and Yvonne this should blow your socks off... or will it? Hard to please people these days.

Hey Director B, thanks for the heads up. I heard F/F vids were no longer in production. Glad to see that is not the case. Still sucks that the BSC had to be closed down due to some random fool. Seems like a big loss. Those outtake vids contained some amazing content. Such a waste to have them never seen again.

Anyway, regarding whether it will please me or not, don't worry about it. It seems impossible to please everyone all the time and I have stupidly rigid tastes so I am even tougher to please, lol. However, I do try to keep my feedback somewhat constructive and try not to get you guys upset.

Either way, you now gave me something to look forward to. Thanks for that.

[Falleen]

Director B, will the next WA movie feature the orgasm fetish as part of the script? Don't want to keep nagging you with questions about the video if the answer is no. Thanks.

[xj900uk]

I'm sure there is something I am missing not having read this other forum but I have seen Blue take everyone's suggestions into consideration including mine. We should throw ideas out there and see if sounds good to everyone else. You can't say one person is influencing the direction of the videos when you see the element posters and all the things they have to jam in there to please everyone. Don't abandon us Badger.

Thank you, Rockastan05. The idea of a villainess movie and maybe series grew out of a discussion behind the scenes between myself and Blue. He wasn't that keen on it, but he suggested I throw it out on the general superheroine forum to see if there was enough backing or interest in seeing such a film. If there was, then he would genuinely consider making it, after all it would need to sell and he and Mr B return a profit or at least a break-even on such a film.

[markmarr]

great, great idea Blue, I will buy and support this project

[The Honey Badger]

Badger, may I ask what you'll like to see in our productions? And if you have already stated it please remind us of what you want again. Also, tell us what you don't like and what XJ has suggests that we have shot that you have an issue with. Thanks.

I’m not going to divert this thread into a list of things that I do and don’t like. I’ve already made Bluestone aware of my fundamental grievance during a different discussion, so I’ll leave it at that. If he needs a reminder, he can check my FN thread.

Edit: Reply to XJ

...I accept I have made quite a few to Blue and Mr B, but to date only a few of them have actually been taken up to my personal knowledge.

Understatement of the century.... Whether you're making new suggestions, voicing your opinion about the suggestions of others, or voicing your opinion of existing elements, your attempted influence is everywhere. If this was the BSC Membership Club, your actions would be akin to casting fifty votes for elements you prefer when everyone else is casting one or two.

[Director B]

Badger, may I ask what you'll like to see in our productions? And if you have already stated it please remind us of what you want again. Also, tell us what you don't like and what XJ has suggests that we have shot that you have an issue with. Thanks.

I’m not going to divert this thread into a list of things that I do and don’t like. I’ve already made Bluestone aware of my fundamental grievance during a different discussion, so I’ll leave it at that. If he needs a reminder, he can check my FN thread.

Ok no worries Badger, was just asking, just trying to help.

[Bluestone]

Badger, may I ask what you'll like to see in our productions? And if you have already stated it please remind us of what you want again. Also, tell us what you don't like and what XJ has suggests that we have shot that you have an issue with. Thanks.

I’m not going to divert this thread into a list of things that I do and don’t like. I’ve already made Bluestone aware of my fundamental grievance during a different discussion, so I’ll leave it at that. If he needs a reminder, he can check my FN thread.

Ok no worries Badger, was just asking, just trying to help.

Go ahead and divert, Badger. I have not read your FN thread. I very seldom go there, and I know we communicate a lot here by pm, but since you've raised this issue publicly, it's only fair that you state your requests publicly. I know you want a return to the Pleaser Wonder Boots, and that is what we plan when we bring back a certain superheroine, but are we missing more than these boots?

I'm in a hotel right now, but I do have an Internet connection, though a very slow one.

Blue

[Richpartist]

One question,which hot superheroine are you with in this hotel room? :)

[The Honey Badger]

Go ahead and divert, Badger. I have not read your FN thread. I very seldom go there, and I know we communicate a lot here by pm, but since you've raised this issue publicly, it's only fair that you state your requests publicly. I know you want a return to the Pleaser Wonder Boots, and that is what we plan when we bring back a certain superheroine, but are we missing more than these boots?

I'm in a hotel right now, but I do have an Internet connection, though a very slow one.

Blue

No. It's just the boots. At the end of the day, I know that your studio doesn't revolve around any particular individual and what they want to see, so it is what it is. I really wasn't trying to turn this into a discussion about my current dilemma, but since you asked I've included the following excerpts taken from a discussion with XJ on my FN thread which summarize my feelings on the matter.


This is the end of a discussion about the Darkwing and Teen Bat character outfits which rank incredibly low on my list of issues worth addressing:
...She might be easy on the eyes, but her outfit violates classically established heroine conventions in my head which ultimately breaks the immersion; then again, I wasn’t terribly invested in those characters to begin with so it’s not even worth mentioning on the FemmeFatalities message board. I still find myself buying both versions of a video for either of those heroines whenever they’re released, but I do it to support the studio, not because of a strong interest in the characters or content. At this point, the only Bluestone heroines that really interest me are Supernova (not Prime due to her god-awful PVC leather boots) and his amazon variants (although my interest in Ultrawoman was recently lost due to her outfit change). I was fine with Dark Wondra and Wonderkick switching over to the OTK boots, but I found myself completely indifferent to the latest Ultrawoman release to the point of not even following the release thread due to her outfit. I still bought both versions, but my waning interest in his heroines also has me looking into other possible outlets – apart from my renders – to satiate my superheroine blood lust.


This is pretty much the crux of my position as taken from my FN thread:
...While I have nothing against the OTK boots, they’ve become the source of a major "deal-breaker" issue for me since they‘re replacing the Pleaser Wonder-130 boots worn by many of the heroines on Bluestone’s bench. My preference for those particular boots is inexplicably strong, so much so that I've offered to bankroll their continued use with offers going as far back as my original application to the FemmeFatalities message board. I even had them custom created in Blender and exported for use in DAZ Studio after I got into 3D rendering. Up until this point, my blind discretion when purchasing Bluestone’s superheroine videos has been rooted in a matter of probability. I knew that based on the number of available heroines in his roster, there was a decent chance (roughly 33% considering Supernova, Wondra, Ultrawoman (previously worn), Dark Wondra (previously worn), Wonderkick, Supernova Prime, Teen Bat, Dark Guardian, Blackbird, Darkwing, Catwarrior , and White Angel while excluding irregular entries like Dark Widow, Dark Canary, Athena, Bountyhuntress, and Superkick) that the next video could potentially feature a heroine who wore those boots. Those odds alone were good enough for me to justify the creation of an annual budget to support his studio by buying both versions of his monthly releases at full retail value. With the loss of Dark Wondra and Ultrawoman, those odds were effectively cut in half which has forced me to re-evaluate the numbers and look into other possible options. I’m not so much concerned about the cost as I am the value of the expense.


This is taken from my reply to XJ in a follow-up post:
...With my overall interest in his heroines rapidly dropping due to the wardrobe changes, the appeal of an occasional Supernova video isn’t really enough to justify my blind commitment to the studio. Assuming no changes are made, I’ll most likely go back to only buying occasional videos of interest and will also end regular assistance of an undisclosed nature. While there’s no way you could have known the magnitude of this “deal-breaking” issue for me when you were making your suggestions to Blue, be mindful of the fact that your continuous attempts to shape the direction of his studio to better suit your own fantasies have unintended consequences as you’ve indirectly killed my own interest in his work. At this point, I’d be just as happy to bankroll John Marshall with [AMOUNT REDACTED] to ensure the regular use of the Wonder-130s in his PKF Deathcut superheroine videos assuming he's interested.


So that pretty much covers it. As stated at the beginning of this post, I acknowledge the fact your studio doesn't revolve around the interests of a single individual. I started this rant to vent my frustration with the people who seem to give their opinion on every single issue while a good amount of us only choose to speak up about matters we're passionate about. Assuming the value of our opinions is equal, the behavior of those in the former category seems to be inconsiderate given their attempt to influence a larger amount of elements which could very easily encroach on the impassioned interests of others. My apologies for the long winded explanation to anyone who has made it this far. Here's some superheroine death related visual candy for your troubles.

[Director B]

Okay, Badger, you have a problem with the costumes and the boots our heroine's wear right? Forgive me if I've got this wrong. I read a hell of a lot of posts forgive me if I don't remember yours, I also get a lot of PMs, with all these people talking I can't figure out why we as a company are not making a lot of money which makes me think a lot of members on this board are file sharing and downloading our stuff from pirate websites. Anyway, was it you that offered to buy the Pleaser Wonder boots for us, if it was then I remember telling you to contact Blue - if you want our heroines in those boots then I don't see why we would be against it. The reason why Wonderkick, Ultrawoman, and Dark Wondra are in the OTK boots is that the Pleaser Wonder boots are all worn out and pealing, so to save money we put the heroines in the OTK boots, and this is the rub, the reason why we can't buy the Pleaser Wonder boots is because of the lack of money coming in for our productions, why is that? It's because of the pirates and file sharers.

So you'll only buy from now on if the costume and the boots are to your taste have I got that right? I understand your passion, let's see what we can do about this problem, it's best to talk to us or me cos I can make things happen, the costume change is not a big problem, but you do realize that if we do this you'll be doing exactly what you've been accusing others of doing, which is influencing the outcome of our productions. We have no problem with this because after all, we make these videos to please you guys, but it's so hard to please everyone.

[xj900uk]

I know where Mr Badger is coming from, he and I have had this discussion on another thread (FN) as he points out.
He prefers to see his heroines in the 'Pleaser Wonder' boots, and I know he has a great fondness for the Supernova's for this very reason.
For the record, I never suggested to Blue and Mr B (who, incidentally, were casting their net to find out what we wanted to see in their productions, and I never responded that they should put all their superheroines in red otk boots, only a couple to help distinguish the various Amazonian ones.
Actually I think they look bloody good in otk's and far better than the older, more traditional 'Pleaser' ones, but I guess fandom/Blue's customers are split about 50/50 on the choice of footwear. Some even prefer the superheroines in civies wearing high-heeled stiletto-shoes!

As Mr B points out above, it's going to be very difficult and virtually impossible unless on a mega-budget to appease everyone in a single movie...

[The Honey Badger]

...So you'll only buy from now on if the costume and the boots are to your taste have I got that right? I understand your passion, let's see what we can do about this problem, it's best to talk to us or me cos I can make things happen, the costume change is not a big problem, but you do realize that if we do this you'll be doing exactly what you've been accusing others of doing, which is influencing the outcome of our productions. We have no problem with this because after all, we make these videos to please you guys, but it's so hard to please everyone.

I have no problem with people adding their input to influence the outcome on matters they’re interested in, but I think some restraint should be shown as to the amount of items one attempts to influence. Of the incredibly limited amount of times I’ve ever chosen to voice my displeasure on production-related elements, boots have been my only focus. Any other concerns that I’ve had about elements have been forgivable up until this point. I don’t even want to discuss them since there are others who seem to find enjoyment in the small things I take issue with, but those Wonder-130 boots are the single most important element to me in a superheroine death-fantasy video and have an inexplicably strong influence on my support of a studio. This fixation has existed well before my arrival to the Femme Fatalities community and will continue to exist should I chose to leave. All of this information was outlined in my application to this message board alongside my offer of material support. Since it appears as though Blue doesn’t mind if privately discussed matters are disclosed for public record, perhaps some of the following information may put the value I place in those boots into perspective. They are the reason why I took an interest in Bluestone Productions back when he released his first Wondra video. They are one of the key reasons as to why I care about the survival of the studio. They are the reason why I find myself buying videos I have little interest in. They are the reason why I've chosen to buy both versions of a video on a monthly basis. They are the reason why I buy both versions of a video from the Silk 'N' Blood store as opposed to buying them from GenreVideos at a discount. They are the reason why I didn't ask for a refund when I was accidentally double charged on a video purchase. They are the reason why I’ve spent a countless number of hours over the past three months sifting through internet refuse on Bluestone’s behalf which has produced reports on over four hundred unique links to pirated Bluestone material (which has now been deleted - FF Admin). They are the reason why I had been planning to keep pace and continue this time consuming effort into 2018 with a realistic goal of finding fifteen hundred discrete links over the course of the year. They are the reason why I’m willing to donate hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars to fund the purchase of those specific boots for a studio that would use them. They are the reason why I abandoned Punished Heroines, currently known as TheRyeFilms, after that studio moved away from them. They are the reason why I’m currently questioning my continued support of Bluestone Productions for the same reason.

I’m not looking for gratitude or additional consideration. I’m merely trying to quantify the value I place on those boots as I don't think saying "I like those boots" would have been adequate.