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[Geno]

Mr. Billy, Just like Pussy shooting fantasies, I like Ball-shooting fantasies too Mr Billy! My girls sometimes got the chance to shoot me in my balls. For it to be erotic, I had to be bad guy trying to here or kill her. It surely did not mean my heterosexual girlfriends hated men for playing a fantasy in which I got in shot in my balls. My favorite scenario is when I used to pull out a knife on nosey female detective and put her against the wall when she visited me in my silky underwear at home looking for information. As I held a her knife to her throat, she warned me to drop it and then I feel a nice cold piece of metal pressing against my balls. I look down and see that she has her little ladies gun pressed against my balls...if I refuse to drop the knife she will fire into my balls. I refuse and she fires. As I lay there dying she conforts me and kisses me, and tell me she did not want to do it, but I forced her! So sexy!

My points are the following...

1. The fantasy shooting of women in their pussies is quite sexy and erotic or many men, and some women.

2. Are you going to let an actress dictate to you what fantasies you have and should not have, when she herself would easily convert to liking them, if she had the right producer/director to show her the way and to stop feeding her fear with witch'es tales.

3. There is perception by anyone passing by FF, that you guys are in an agreement that you hate pussy shooting fantasies, and the enviorment here is not friendly to such fantasies.

4. Do you like hearing about fantasies like the one in which the female DS member plays with her husband with high pressured water pistols, and aims for her pussy ever chance he gets and fires and she goes into near orgasm. Or would you rather not hear stories like that or have people feel welcome to post simular pussy shooting fantasies them here on FF also?

5. Max, Don't you really know that if your case goes to the jury, they going to hang you for producing any erotic clip in which a woman is shown to killed, period. That they will hang you just as high for breast-shot in your videos, as you would for a pussy shooting scene in your video. Stop confusing personal fantasies with producers who may or may not make a video to compliment it. Whether or not a producer ever takes the initiative to make a video, people on the right message board will always want to talk and share their positive feelings about below the belt shootings.

Sincerely Geno

[Max5s]

It surely did not mean my heterosexual girlfriends hated men for playing a fantasy in which I got in shot in my balls. Sincerely Geno

And how do your homosexual girlfriends feel about it? (The ones you call dykes and every other derogatory epithet you can think of for them.)


Geno,

If you could read and write, we could have a discussion. As far as I can tell, you aren't really understanding the concepts posted, so there isn't much we can talk about. Jugging from the length of your post and the paucity of its content, I'd say you are mostly interested in hearing yourself talk.

[Nightposter]

I was going to toss my two cents in here , but what the heck, Geno is here, Let's toss in the whole dollar....
I feel the same way as Evil Billy, that area on either male or female is off limits to me as far as mutilation by any form. (impalement is one step beyond for me, but forced sex, by machine, by hand with an implement (or "toy") ..it's right at that line, depends on the scene)

Geno is entitled to his fantasies, ( yes even Geno )I've stumbled upon some groups into Vore, and Gore and groups that get off watching people shredded to bits....they are all entitled to their fantasies. ( heck even that guy at DS who wanted to see belly dancers get it in their belly is entitled -but -) It is how they want to go about satisfying their fantasies we seem to have problems with.

Geno, or anyone else does not have the right to demand that a producer attempt to get any model to do any scene he or she is uncomfortable with.
Last time I checked, the USA had freed the slaves, and they are just as entitled to deny a request to do a scene, as Geno is entitled to ask for one.

As I said, Geno is entitled to his fantasies, I am just as entitled to not agree with him, and not care for his fantasies.

Now- as to Paul or any other producer whom Geno contacts, requesting his fantasy.
No one is under any obligation to produce a film that they feel will not sell, will be bad for their business, or "tarnish" their image, regardless of what Geno, or anyone else , wants.
( and it doesn't matter if you own the highest traffic, bigest baddest super board on the internet )

Some years ago now, I supplied uniforms to producers who made bondage films.
One very attractive model actually quit the business because the producer wanted to show her cleavage, by having another girl rip the uniform shirt open during a struggle. This girl was a very good actress, never messed up lines ( even when she had to improvise ) did convincing death scenes, but preferred to remain fully clothed in all her scenes. There is a line some models will not cross, and if you push it, you could be looking for a new model, worse, you could end up on the models "Shit list" ( a list of photographers and producers no one wants to work with) or even worse , end up in the back of a black and white, trying to explain... "you see officer, I only wanted to do this scene where I shoot her in the pussy, she didn't want to, and I was just trying to show her how much fun my customer says it is"....


Geno - every time you show up here you act like this is your group, you belittle everyone. I know you can make a civil post, you sent me an email once ( should have framed it)
You will get much further along here by being civil, and treating members here with respect.
This group is different, it is NOT run the way you run DS ( if it was, maybe we'd all still be there, instead of here and elsewhere) and we don't want to run it the way DS is run!
I'll bet Blue doesn't care how much "traffic" we get here, as long as it remains the civilized forum it is.

Before you start talking about banning and vacations and all that junk, let me tell you this - from the day I was asked to moderate this board, I have had the power to make you disappear. I have not used that power, do not intend to, and have never threatened to use that power ( unlike you). I told Blue you were his problem, and unless someone goes way off the deep end, I was going to stay away from moderating threads involving you.
I know you lied at your board, no one here gave you a vacation or suspension, you did it yourself.
I do not intend on leaving this board, I do not intend on ever posting again at your board.
Start acting like the adult you claim to be, and not the school yard bully you think you are.

[posted as a member - not moderator]

[EvilBilly]

I am in agreement with Nightposter, and pretty much everyone else who has commented on this topic. No one has suggested that pubic shootings be banned or labeled as taboo and verboten. Some folks like this, some don't. That's all there is to it. I also don't like images of people disemboweled, either. However I don't see the need to condemn those who do. I do admit, the high-pressure water pistol thing sounds interesting. But again, no bullet-holes or blood involved.

Everyone is entitled to march to the beat of their own drummer. Let freedom ring. Or drum, in this case.

[Geno]

I am in agreement with Nightposter, and pretty much everyone else who has commented on this topic. No one has suggested that pubic shootings be banned or labeled as taboo and verboten.

That is not correct Billy. KHP is taking about the how he thinks his actresses hate him because he did a pussy shooting. Max is talking about losing a "violence against women video case", base on the fact simple fact she was shown getting shot below the belt in the video. Finally Billy, on this board, I ask you this question.., beside me, has anyone else posted a love for pussy shooting fantasies on this thread. Answer..no one! ;-((

Nightposter--- I going to make it real simple. Whenever Bluestone asks for some input on a issue. I might come down here, and post and answer as convincing as I think I have to be. I can't help that I am a webmaster , the big boss, of another site. Here I am just a member putting in my 2 cents. The only difference, I just don't fall for your imtimidation. Your reaching back over to the DeadSkirts site for my owner identification card and bringing it up here. You are the one who are doing that Nightposter. I never said I was a moderator or a owner of this site. I post as a regular member who just happens to be the big boss somewhere else.

Now to straighten you out Nighposter on a 2nd issue. I , Geno, do have the right as a paying customer demand a quality product from producers and demand that they put more or what I, and my members want to see in production. They don't have to give in to those demands, but I do have a right to request anything I want to from a producer. Whether they give it or not, is up to them.

I like pussying shooting fantasies, so does, Sandi, China Doll, Sarah and a half dozen more women. You just said you don't care about their fantasies. So I want to know Mr. Nightposter, what are you going to about it? Are you going to stand guard on the entrance to FemmeFalities and make sure no expressions of love for pussy-shooting fantasies gets by you.

With the expection Geno, Mr. Nightposter, you already have a climate of fear here, that will prevent women like that from expressing love for their pussy shooting fantasies on this board. Nightposter don't you realize you it's is ok for you to hate pussy shooting fantasies, but you should not be intimidating others on the board, into not sharing them. I am disgusted by some of the work of KHP for instance. Some of his work has excessive gore and overuse of nudity where nice costuming would be more apporpiate. However when he post on DeadSkirts. I leave his work alone that don't like. That leaves a healthy sample of the DS population to freely embrace those productions that he has fantasy gore and guts in. You don't have that friendy enviorment here Nightposter. They way it is now on this board, for the moment except for Gene, is that the only people you have here on this thread so far, are those expressing disgust for pussy shooting fantasies.

Max5s --- I know I am operating way above your head, but try to understand anyway. You don't like pussy shooting fantasies. Right? Ok then fine, step aside then. You need to leave it at that. I want to see that pussy shooting fantasy with Miss Suzi Leigh in it. I don't want you to get in my way in convincing the producer into releasing it. That is why I am here to put in my counter-pitch I am very excited by it, and the thought in may be comming out this summer. Bluestone shouldn't have told you anything about Suzi's hang-ups. Once you got a hold of that information Max, I knew you would exploit it into saying that not only you not do not like pussy shooting fantasies, but that those fantasy are wrong and dangerous, and are going to cause all these fetish actress to take of and flee.

Bluestone--- Sometimes I think you are sharing to much personal information between your fetish actresses and the public crowd here. If you must share personal actress problems, share it only with your trusted friends. Friends you know will also keep it confidential. If Suzi has hang-ups or personals problems on the set, and you expose those problems to the public board here, you get a lot of people to draw false conclusions about what this may mean. The fact is that Suzi did the video, and from the sneak teasers you allowed me to see, it looks pretty exciting. She is very well dressed in long flowing evening gown. The problems you may have had on the set, if any, are irrelivant to the customer. All customer is looking for is a great product and to be left alone by the nay sayers.

Sincerely Geno

[Geno]

PS. Paul on DeadSkirts if there is a legit question about the sales of your product you have to answer it. Like Is the video avalible for download or is on DVD? Yes you do have to answer that as an advertiser. But if anyone ask you techincal or information not related to sales , you DO NOT have to answer. I never had a problem with you or any producer. You always were good about answering sales question (in a timely manner) We don't allow hit and run advertising. I am answering that one unrelated question Paul, so stay on topic please. Now back to the issue on hand.

KHP (Paul)--- Maybe I do have a love/hate relationship with you after all Paul. Naturally whenever anyone says they love you, you think is a sexual conotation. I love hearing about you techincal exploits behind the scenes, but you are just to much of an a-hole to share it. That is your right. All I know it that I am looking for great pussy shooting for me and some of my members, who have expressed a love for them. It's my favorite place to shoot a woman , in fantasy. If you don't give us what we want KHP, they we will look somewhere else. Everyone has their favorite model in any given company. Britton just happen not to be one of mine. Sticking that gun barrel up Britton's pussy, blasting away, and then throwing a bucket of red paint on her, isn't going to do it for us. I won't be able to get off in KHP, and more then likey neither will my certified pussy lovers.

If you are too scared to film it, or you don't have the convincing powers to gently persuade Britton to do a pussy shooting for our DS members. Then don't do it. You are not the standard anyway for pussy shootings KHP. Just remember if you are going to try and vilify pussyshooting, by equating my fantasy to hating women, if I have time, I am surely going to come down and counter your opinion KHP.

Sincerely Geno

[Max5s]

Max5s --- I don't want you to get in my way in convincing the producer into releasing it.

Since you put it that way, consider me "in your way".

Blue on the other hand, will consider me as one of several who have expressed an opinion on the subject of a video's content. He may agree with me or not at his choosing.

As for you "operating above my head" (or anyone else's for that matter) I can only chuckle as I imaging you sitting atop a ladder crying "I'm Yertle the turtle, oh marvelous me."

[kevin67]

Hi,

Hold it , Hold it. It seems like we are starting to not only get off topic, but we are starting to snipe at each other. Everyone take cover.

I think we should start looking at the issues again and not the personalities. At first, I would like to say that I do not hate DS, it's a site not a human being. Secondly, and to noone's surprise, I do lurk on DS for reasons too long to enumerate here. What a revelation.

Now let's get down to the issues as I see them.

Issue one- Does the site manager of a site have the right to determine the content that is shown to the public. You must realize that all the necro site producers do draw a line that they will not cross, thus giving each of them a certain flavor or feeling to their videos. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending upon how you look at it, money has to be made to continue the making of these videos, and is definitely a factor.The questrion is -are we willing to accept the pussy shooting video, made by Blue and starring Suzi, and give it a public release?

Issue two- Does an actor or actress have the right to refuse to do something which they feel is not proper? Geno- I have always been confused as to why you chose Suzi ,when you already got Milena,s pussy shot. If you don't like her acting, then why even bother to ask for her in a pussy shooting video? I am certain you knew that she and Blue were good friends, he has mentioned it several times on this site. You took exception to having Kelli even come over to FF, and nothing even happened to her. She apparently decided that she was not going to review videos here. That is fine, she made her choice and it is respected. I am certainly not going to go over and join your board -then try to convince her your the devil. On this issue you lose on points.

Here is my suggestion, for what it's worth, so we don't spend a lot of time screaming at each other. Why not create another poll which deals entirely with this one video to help Blue determine the fate of this video. Let the voice of the members be heard . It should be simple and easy to vote. Once the members have read all the arguments, pro and con, they vote.

1) Forget the pussy shooting video.
2) I want to see the pussy shooting video.

For those who lurk or are afraid of commenting , they can meerly vote. The ultimate decision, of couse lies with Blue. Any additions,comments or suggestions are encouraged.

[Bluestone]

Kevin,

Thanks for your intercession. You are the moderator of this thread, so I am only answering in my capacity as producer member. We already have a poll which at the time of this posting has Petra's video and Suzi's pussy shooting video neck and neck. I'd like to continue this poll, since it compares pussy-shootings with other sub-fetishes such as other shootings and stabbings. I don't really want to put a whole sub-fetish such as pussy shooting on trial with a yes/no poll.

There are many interesting sub-topics arising here, and I'd like to address a few:

1. I do not think I should be withholding behind-the-scenes information from customers. My experience is that customers (and I was one for many years before becoming a producer) crave such information from producers. Since Suzi and I are friends, I let her decide about "Widowmaker", and she decided to do it, knowing it would probably appear some day on my site. So, no one has to feel guilty about seeing "Widowmaker". As with all of my videos, the lovely victim is not portrayed in a disgusting or gory fashion. Suzi remains beautiful even in death. By the way, she is dressed in mini-dress and not evening gown;

2. I agree with Paul that it is very hard to get actresses in the door, once they know that you want to film 3-4 videos of them being shot, stabbed, strangled and shot again. Once they meet me, they become much more comfortable. They usually comment later on my professionalism, which no doubt means that I don't try to steal an unwanted feel. Petra said not only was I professional but that I was the most patient person that she's ever worked with. I dare say that Geno has no conception of the relationship that a good producer or director has to develop with his/her cast. Yes, and actresses DO have the RIGHT to choose whether they want to take a role or not. Suzi is on an exclusive contract with Bluestone Video Productions for necro videos, but even she has the right to say NO, and, in my book, 'No' is 'No'. I don't think I should, after being told 'No', try to convince an actress to reconsider, unless she leaves the door open to this, as Suzi did in the case of the "Widowmaker" after declining a similar impact in "Ride to Hell" a few months previously;

3. I.M.H.O., name-calling is not a legitimate ingredient of an adult debate;

4. There appears to be some interest in "Widowmaker" as is obvious from the above poll results. Does anyone other than Geno wish to speak in favour of pussy shootings? Please feel free. We will hear you out;

5. Obviously, I have accepted doing two pussy shootings as a challenge to see if they can be done with class and eroticism. I don't plan to turn Silk Videos into a pussy-shooting specialty producer, but I'm wondering if that would be a good inroad for a new producer. Geno seems convinced that this is a gold mine and there are many people at DS ready to form a pussy-shooting society. Watch out for the S.P.C.A., Geno Shooting Mad, maybe you could become such a producer. Does anyone think there is a sufficient market to support such a producer?

Blue

[Geno]

______ Please Don't Start Talking That Legal Garbage Again KHP______
(Bluestone is not Dominated by those fears like you Are Paul.)

KHP---That is what got your in trouble in the first place. Members other than Geno, asked you to do simular remake of some to the most sexiest death scene we know like "Farewell My Lovely" , "Bonnie and Clyde", or "The Silencers". Not an exact remake, but something close to it. It would have been perfectly legal and no one can put a copyright on an idea, or a method of kill, but you had that same rotten yellow streak on your back a mile wide KHP. You gave the DS every illegitimate excuse the book, for not doing one of those scene. People fought and died for you right as American to express free speech and your ran away from those suggestion, like you are doing with these pussy shootings. Fine if you do what to take a chance KHP, don't do it.

Beside Bluestone did one KHP. Where as you were too chicken to take a chance, like you are with pussy shots, and he did sort of remake of the silencers. A woman did get shot in her back while be held romatically in a man's arms. Bluestone's strongest points is that he knows how to dress women up and is not afraid to exercise his rights. When it comes to the incredible erotism of a pussy shot done correctly, and getting good reactions, but I am willing to overlook less than perfect acting.

Kevin67--- Polls don't exactly work that way. They are not surveys. People do not have the option of voting 5 stars for "breast shots" and 4 stars for "pussy shootings." and ranking their taste down the line. Nor should anyone make the mistake thinking that just because one video did not get a vote, that people don't still put it in a close second place in their hearts. You only get one chance to vote. If pussy shots looses by a couple of votes Bluestone is not going throw the idea under the trash. The polls, and the convincing arguments we are putting up here both shall, and should, weigh in on his decision to try to do a few pussy shooting videos. I would not be interested in voting on any project, using an electionic poll where, if my vote lost by just a couple of points, the whole project is dropped.


Mr. Max --- So, you have express your hatred of pussy shooting. Now you are going to see if you can stop us pussy-shooting-lovers from getting the product. Instead of just staying out of the way. Still planning on getting in the way Max? Well it's going to be a pleasure to bowl you over. Poor , poor, Max.

There does seem to be an interest in "pussy shooting" based on the poll, but no one want to get rat-packed for voicing their supportive opinion, by Max and company..... So it very quiet right now.


Geno

[Max5s]

Mr. Max --- So, you have express your hatred of pussy shooting. Now you are going to see if you can stop us pussy-shooting-lovers from getting the product. Instead of just staying out of the way. Still planning on getting in the way Max? Well it's going to be a pleasure to bowl you over. Poor , poor, Max.
Geno

You are right. I do not like them. The decision; however, is Blue's. Not yours. Not mine. And you are not going to bowl anyone over. Blue has already articulated his position with respect to Suzi, and from what I can see, he is trying to get a feeling about how other people feel about it. He already knows our respective positions on the subject, so why don't you and I shut the f*ck up so that others can be heard. You do know how to shut the f*ck up don't you?

(Edited for offensive language -- The Administration)

[Geno]

Getting discourteous now, Mr. Max?

You are begining to crack at the seams? Uncivilty begining to take over your persona? I gave you fair warning boy. I told you it's enough you may like all those dismembering gore gut and tit chopping fantasies, but that does not mean you should try and block pussy shooting fantasies that don't turn you on. Even as the big boss of DeadSkirts I never try to block anyone from getting the fantasy on video Mr. Max. You ought to know that Mr. Max. We have producers on Deadskirts thast can give you all the gore and guts, and tit chopping action you like, and I don't try to block the release of there videos, or the promotions they make on DeadSkirts. What you are doing is foolish and impossible, Max5s.

Max I have the best interest of this community at heart and big board to back me up, and even though you don't have those same super-resources I have, you have the impudence to try and shoot down and stop legitimate fantasy video production of rare and exotic fantasy. If you try to stop it, you'll just be be sitting a sitting duck, Mr. Max.

Geno

[Bluestone]

Geno,

Back off! Max simply said that it's my decision, not that he was trying to block anything, and he's right! He also suggested that you and he give someone else a chance to express their opinions. Right again! Way I see it, Max is batting 1,000 here

So, any other opinions out there on this slightly controversial subject. All opinions are welcomed and tolerated by the administration of this board.

Blue

[Geno]

Unfortunately it's not entirely up the admistration alone whether anyone voices a pro-pussy shooting opinon. They need clearance from Max5s and company also. When they see the admistration supporting the barbaric behavior of Max and his F'-words by giving him a 1,000 points, do you really think my supporters are going to come foward?

If Mr. Max5s is batting a 1000, I must be batting a million Bluestone. He's mad at the whole world over this pussy shooting subject. I told him in so many words also to back off also, but he keeps comming back for more. Let us watch and see. I have said my piece.

Geno

[Bluestone]

Geno,

You're the one that keeps coming back for more. We've heard your opinion, and if your supporters do not care enough about pussy shootings to express an opinion on a free speech board like this, then they can't be very supportive of your opinions after all. Doesn't look like you're batting a million. It looks like you're about to strike out! "Widowmaker" has slipped in the poll since you started your pro-pussy-shoot tirade. Perhaps, you should take Max5s' advice

Blue