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[Bluestone]

Pussy Shootings?

As many of you may know, I produced what was in effect a free custom for Geno, since he was challenging me to do a pussy shooting to his specifications. I did so, and released it in two versions under the name "Final Contract". Melina starred in this video! After going to all of that trouble and bumping other blood scenes in order to post it for Geno, he has consistently delayed making any comment... postive, negative, or even in private to me; although, he has consistently promised to post a review of "Final Contract". He also challenged me to film a pussy shooting featuring Suzi. I did so. He has said on the boards that pussy shootings are an untapped gold mine, and that such videos will sell well, but I've only heard a couple of people on the boards, including Geno, request this type of shooting. So, I thought I'd put it to a poll again. As you will recall, there was a recent blood scene poll which MaxineX won, with Suzi scoring a close second. So, I thought I'd use the losers in that poll plus a couple of other unedited videos to see if the Suzi pussy shooting is in demand or not. By the way, the pussy shooting is entitled, "Widowmaker"!

Blue

[Bluestone]

Hi Paul,

My experience exactly. Melina was a real trooper to do "Final Contract", but I was really worried about damaging my relationship with Suzi, because she was very uncomfortable with doing this shooting. Because it was a custom (albeit an unpaid one ) and because of our excellent working relationship, she agreed to do it for me... stressing that she was doing it for me, but wouldn't film this scene for anyone else. I am also concerned about damaging my relationship with my actresses by asking them to do something that they are uncomfortable with, and most are uncomfortable with being shot up the skirt. If there is a lot of demand, I will look into doing more, but that's what this thread is here for.

By the way, Paul, I did like your video, I believe it was "Joey's Girl", where you lift up Nicole's (?) skirt with a machine gun and blast her under the skirt. That was erotic for me, probably because it was up close and personal. I know that was an oldie, but, as you know, I've been a fan of your work for years

Thanks for your input! Anyone else care to share?

Blue

[gold]

My vote is for the Petra video. But have to say that if she did a custom with Blue as director it would be very intersting and , it does not have to be the single focus of the vid .Both Blue and Paul both vary the target and thus attract more fans. With Petra in the scenario the multi shot concept is a possibility and who knows exactly where the shots might end up..

[Bluestone]

Hi Gold,

The multi-shot concept is great, because it satisfies more fetishes all in one; however, the Suzi pussy shooting, based upon the request that I received, has a limit on location and cause of death. The shots have to be in or around the pussy, and they have to be the kill shots. That's what, I.M.H.O., could possibly limit the general attraction for such a shooting, but it's not up to me. It's up to the video buying public as to what they want

Blue

[Max5s]

Pussy Shootings?

.......... So, I thought I'd use the losers in that poll plus a couple of other unedited videos to see if the Suzi pussy shooting is in demand or not. By the way, the pussy shooting is entitled, "Widowmaker"!

Blue

Personally, I have no interest in seeing the "Widowmaker" for the following reasons:
1) Suzi was reluctant to do it (and probably wishes she hadn't)
2) Despite my strong belief in freedom of expression, the subject matter would be a better lightning rod in a legal challenge than your traditional material. You probably wouldn't win many points with most female jurors.

IMHO, you'd be doing yourself and your relationship with Suzi a favor by burying this one.

[kevin67]

Hi,

I want to go on record as saying that I never felt this was a good ideas at all. I was aware fromm the beginning that Suzi would not be too happy about this idea, and iI didn't percieve it to be the new wave of the future in our little cornor of the world. Of course this is just my opinion.

I am not a women, but I can see how this type of demise would reek of disrespect and possibly hatred of women. Even in the mainstream films, there is an underlying meaning when an actor gets his gonads shot to smithereens.

When this pussy shooting fiasco first started on DS, certain members, whom I shall not name,stated that if the actress does not want to do what the producer wants her to do, she shouldn't be an actress. Well excuse me, actors and actresses turn down roles all the time and they are still working. The actor or actress does have a right to pick and choose what roles they wish to portray. If an actress decides she wants to do a pussy shot, then it is her choice and is exercising her right to pick and choose that role.

Whether Blue shows this video or not is really up to him, but I get the feeling that he was not too happy with making this video, so his conscience must be his guide

PS to Paul - I loved Nicoles ,because I always felt she gave it her all. I hope that times are getting better for her..

[Max5s]

Well said, Kevin.

I want to add that IMHO, selling "Widowmaker" would really be a low point for Silk Videos, a production company that I have always felt had very high values. Even if there is a demand for this type of production, I would avoid it especially with a reluctant actress that I valued as a friend.

[Bluestone]

Interesting views! With "Final Contract", I made two versions, one where the pussy shot was the kill shot, and one where it wasn't. I filmed the Suzi one with two alternate endings too.

Firstly, what did those who bought "Final Contract" think of it?

Secondly, Suzi and I have now worked together for about 4 years and we correspond by email almost every day. If I thought our friendship wouldn't survive this video, I would have never made it. She is a trooper, and she allowed this video to be filmed, and is aware that it was filmed to be released at some point in the future. So, she is fine with it, which I think is a credit to her. Someone keeps giving her a hard time on DS, but what's said over there about her I.M.H.O. is absolute crap. She is a wonderful person and a very good actress.

Thirdly, will the release of this video be a low point for Silk Videos? Max, a assume there was no pun intended there regarding 'low point' and below the belt shots. I believe you were serious, and it is a concern. Silk Videos has always featured glamourous actresses in upscale costumes and surroundings... in the classy tradition started by AF. It does give me pause to think that one video would change the status of the Silk Videos production company. There is something to be said for breaking new ground too, while trying to do so in as classy a manner as possible.

Well, you've all given me a lot to think about, but I hope that there are others of you who will vote and/or add your opinions to this thread. This is obviously a very controversial subject which has not been discussed in depth and in a mature manner on the boards.

Blue

[Max5s]

Blue,

I think that breaking new ground is very important to long-term viability. I think you did that initially by taking a very upscale approach in choosing your models, sets and scripts. You put on a very classy production that would fit into a number of different venues. I also think you have plenty of options to explore should you choose to do so. Tuning out a voice coming from a place a couple of letters lower in the alphabet and following the inner Blue has been a good move on your part. It is perhaps your best guide. The best I can offer you is to suggest that you follow the advice of the Bard and to thine ownself be bl(tr)ue.

[Geno]

Listen up everyone,

This is supposed to be a free speech board right? So if I draw on some of the things I see on and do on higher traffic board (DeadSkirts), I should be allowed to use that as a reference. If you guys really are going to try and create a climate of where free speech thrives, you won't set up some artifical rule that says I can't use DS as a reference, if I want too. It's up to each one you of here to behave and restrain yourselves, and not to trash someone for his sources or references of knowledge. My knowledge is largely from the way we do things on DeadSkirts. The trials and methods of way we get results over there. Usualy there is only one right way. The only here knows that, that why will building this site he borrowed a lot from the DeadSkirts model. Right down to the emoticons. No problem, when you are right, you are right, and you will get followers.

KHP, I set up here looking at the pitiful, sorry, gloomy show, that you are putting on in with the owner and a few one or two rag-tag members, and you trying your best to paint a very ugly picture of a very sexy, erotic, fantasy: :The true pussy shooting of a woman in her pussy in well acted out play. The Truth is KHP you just don't want to do pussy shots, and it your company. For whatever reason you are trying to equate it with a hate crime. Well, you better look and everyone on you videos, because by the deduction everyone of you video is a hate crime.

On Deadskirts we actually get men and women to come up and express there positive feelings on a good pussy shooting. Women who love that. I have ex-girlfirend who use to roleplay with me all the time. She started off disliking certain fantasies, but through gentle persuation she really started liking pussy shootings a lot. Though we had some personal incompatibly issues back then, today when I bump into her from time to time she still expresses a like for roleplaying in which she likes pussy shootings!

On DeadSkirts, that right D-e-a-d-S-K-i-r-t-s I said it, we don't create a enviorment of disgust and fear like you are doing at the moment Mr. KHP towards any given fantasy, let alone pussy shootings. As a result, you can freely find fellow DS members, including females, that like any fantasy you can name. Of all the women out there, you are not going to get a single woman to come on this board , like we do on DeadSkirts, to make a point expressing a love for pussy shootings. For goodness sakes man, it only fantasy. A red dot, or two, in the front of her skirt and she drops dead. There not problem there, if you nurture her into understanding. Instead you are sitting up there creating "boggey man's" and talking about hating women and hate groups because of a target area? No! you already got the hate groups on your case Mr. KHP just being a part of this fetish. So do I for creating DeadSkirts. If your responsibity KHP to make that prized fetish model of your understand that you don't hate women. Make her undestand that if she is stupid enough to believe that a because a killer is going fire a shot up her skirt, instead of the the usually fantasy of chopping her tits off, that the video a hate, ..the she might as well label every single on of you video is which a woman dies on screen , in fantasy a hate film.

It ok for Miss Britton Prizzy to have you film a fantasy scene where you do the mulitlation of her overused, over glorified, pumped up, darn titties. Yet a simple pussy shot is going to make her think you hate her? That is between you and her KHP, and your failure to convince her it harmless, fun and very exciting fantasy for people out there. I know the answer! I got a whole board punk. We are even working on a pussy shooting club within the board. Men and women who love that fantasy.

Max5s--Shame on you. You're acting just a tumbleweed on this board. You'll go anywhere on this board, and long as the wind is blowing in that direction. You're telling me Max, you are not going to buy a sexy video in which a beautiful actress is shot in her pussy area, in welll acted play ,because you got word that she did not like part? Well for your information "her" breast are a very private part of her body, and she does not like having her breast being portrayed as being hit by bullets. Now that you have gotten that information Mr. Max, are you going to stop buying breast shot videos too? I hope the answer is "yes", because at least you will have some consistancy. I am not interested in an actresses hang-ups. It up to each indivual producers to make the actresses feel at home for whatever he has in mind for her.

Back to Mr. KHP-- we can not use you for a reference on pussy shootings. You don't even how to do it. Lifting up women skirts and shoving gun barrels up their pussies is not the way to do it. Next, you are wondering why you get such stinking, low ratings on your pussy shooting videos. There needs to come a day where pussy shootings are filmed with the same respect as the overused, boring, breast shots. When Petra Morgan gets shot in her breast in a given scene, you don't see the killer lifting up her bra up and put the gun up against her bare breast and firing. He fires the bullet right through the bra! The same way he would fire it right through her skirt! That is the way to do it.

Then again Paul (KHP), DeadSkirts is a people driven board, and is not driven by commericial greed , looking for ways you can make a quick buck, like you might be create a message board for. Most of he members here visit, or post on DeadSkirts. The reverse is not true. Even people like Kevin67 whom in the past, has constantly made it very clear how much he hates the DS site, and yet claims to be a regular visitor. He seems to be telling the truth, because he always up to date on the happening at DeadSkirts. KHP, Whether or not you refuse to do a custom in which a woman is shot in her pussy, at any price, DeadSkrits will always be the place where you can find men and women who like that fantasy and , unlike here, will not be afraid to post it publically. You don't see it here publically because no one , except me, will post a fantasy where such a tiny few will bash my fantasy, Paul. :-(

Sincerely Geno

[Bluestone]

Geno,

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and we know that your reference point is DeadSkirts (there, I said it too), but I don't know why you feel that you have to address everyone individually and then tell them off. Having an opinion on a free speech board also means that you respect other people's opinions. I can accept Paul's points, Max's points and your points. Now, I may have an opinion that differs from all three of you, but that doesn't make my opinion any better than any of yours.

Thanks for your input, Geno. It is appreciated, but I think you have to work a little more on your interpersonal skills, especially when you start trashing a member producer's actresses. Remember, that's like trashing a fellow member.

Blue

[Geno]

Pussy shooting is a very sexy fantasy. Don't you know there are women out there who love this fantasy. From this board you haven't got a single man or woman to come forward and express a love for a pussy shootings. Oh there out there in abundance Bluestone. Why should they come forward with such a gloomy gang is here and who ar bashing the the pussy-shooting fantasy right down the line?

We have had a female member on DS to express how her and her husband sometimes play shoot outs with with high pressure water guns, and he her husband is so good at ducking, and comming up at waist level fire and blasting her pussy through bathing binki with the pressured stream of water, and how the pleasure for her is near orgasmic! Another member of DS, "China Doll" a beautiful Asian woman living in Canada, who started off hating pussy shootings, meet with in a private forum and through picture and explaining over a few weeks time, I convinced her to finally start to enjoy pussy shootings. It took time, but she has an open mind.

Bluestone surely would you like to have women and men on this board, on pussy-fantasy thread, sharing and embracing each other on that subject. Well if you going to have KHP and Max leading crowds and mobs into hating that fantasy, you are going to make this a very stale envoirment for sharing such fantasie, like I just describe by one of our female members.

They guys here are not just telling you they don't like the pussy-shooting fantasies, they are doing a lot worst because they are saying a pussy shooting fantasy is wrong. and it's hateful. Well if you beleive that Bluestone, you'll never have rich fantasies like that water shooting fantasy shared on Femme Fatalities.

Sincerely Geno

[Max5s]

Yes Geno, thanks for sharing. The new lens through which I veiw your fantasy and those that share it is producing an image that is ever the more sharper.

[Bluestone]

Geno,

My reading of the other posts on this thread obviously differs from yours. I don't see anybody bashing the pussy-shooting fantasy as being hateful. There has merely been discussion about it being perceived by the general public as hatred toward women. Those on this board with the fetish understand that we don't hate women, just because we've got the erotic death fetish, but the general public do not understand the difference. The thought is that the more taboo the subject, the more likely it will be misinterpreted by the general public.

Now, I don't want to dominate this thread. Geno has raised some valid points. Are there others out there who share this sub-fetish who'd like to put in their 2 cents worth, or anybody else who has an opinion or comment on this subject, including any thoughts on "Final Contract" or any other pussy shooting video? All opinions are welcome here, despite Geno's perception that we are all in agreement against pussy shootings. I have already filmed two, and Paul and JohnM have filmed some, which we obviously wouldn't have done if we thought it was wrong or hateful.

Blue

[EvilBilly]

From my own point of view, I look at a pu$$y shooting that same way as I would look at a guy getting his junk taken off. Not a turn on, more of a cringe reaction. I can see how one could equate the gun with a penis and the bullet as a powerful, fatal ejaculation. However I know what bullets do to flesh, and that takes away the eroticism. I think that's why I'm so obsessed with the Superheroine thing, there's a defined, profound barrier of fantasy. Plus, the heroine can be brought back to seek her revenge!