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Re: Idea for a new 'Supervillainess'

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Okay, Badger, you have a problem with the costumes and the boots our heroine's wear right? Forgive me if I've got this wrong. I read a hell of a lot of posts forgive me if I don't remember yours, I also get a lot of PMs, with all these people talking I can't figure out why we as a company are not making a lot of money which makes me think a lot of members on this board are file sharing and downloading our stuff from pirate websites. Anyway, was it you that offered to buy the Pleaser Wonder boots for us, if it was then I remember telling you to contact Blue - if you want our heroines in those boots then I don't see why we would be against it. The reason why Wonderkick, Ultrawoman, and Dark Wondra are in the OTK boots is that the Pleaser Wonder boots are all worn out and pealing, so to save money we put the heroines in the OTK boots, and this is the rub, the reason why we can't buy the Pleaser Wonder boots is because of the lack of money coming in for our productions, why is that? It's because of the pirates and file sharers.

So you'll only buy from now on if the costume and the boots are to your taste have I got that right? I understand your passion, let's see what we can do about this problem, it's best to talk to us or me cos I can make things happen, the costume change is not a big problem, but you do realize that if we do this you'll be doing exactly what you've been accusing others of doing, which is influencing the outcome of our productions. We have no problem with this because after all, we make these videos to please you guys, but it's so hard to please everyone.
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I know where Mr Badger is coming from, he and I have had this discussion on another thread (FN) as he points out.
He prefers to see his heroines in the 'Pleaser Wonder' boots, and I know he has a great fondness for the Supernova's for this very reason.
For the record, I never suggested to Blue and Mr B (who, incidentally, were casting their net to find out what we wanted to see in their productions, and I never responded that they should put all their superheroines in red otk boots, only a couple to help distinguish the various Amazonian ones.
Actually I think they look bloody good in otk's and far better than the older, more traditional 'Pleaser' ones, but I guess fandom/Blue's customers are split about 50/50 on the choice of footwear. Some even prefer the superheroines in civies wearing high-heeled stiletto-shoes!

As Mr B points out above, it's going to be very difficult and virtually impossible unless on a mega-budget to appease everyone in a single movie...
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Director B wrote:...So you'll only buy from now on if the costume and the boots are to your taste have I got that right? I understand your passion, let's see what we can do about this problem, it's best to talk to us or me cos I can make things happen, the costume change is not a big problem, but you do realize that if we do this you'll be doing exactly what you've been accusing others of doing, which is influencing the outcome of our productions. We have no problem with this because after all, we make these videos to please you guys, but it's so hard to please everyone.
I have no problem with people adding their input to influence the outcome on matters they’re interested in, but I think some restraint should be shown as to the amount of items one attempts to influence. Of the incredibly limited amount of times I’ve ever chosen to voice my displeasure on production-related elements, boots have been my only focus. Any other concerns that I’ve had about elements have been forgivable up until this point. I don’t even want to discuss them since there are others who seem to find enjoyment in the small things I take issue with, but those Wonder-130 boots are the single most important element to me in a superheroine death-fantasy video and have an inexplicably strong influence on my support of a studio. This fixation has existed well before my arrival to the Femme Fatalities community and will continue to exist should I chose to leave. All of this information was outlined in my application to this message board alongside my offer of material support. Since it appears as though Blue doesn’t mind if privately discussed matters are disclosed for public record, perhaps some of the following information may put the value I place in those boots into perspective. They are the reason why I took an interest in Bluestone Productions back when he released his first Wondra video. They are one of the key reasons as to why I care about the survival of the studio. They are the reason why I find myself buying videos I have little interest in. They are the reason why I've chosen to buy both versions of a video on a monthly basis. They are the reason why I buy both versions of a video from the Silk 'N' Blood store as opposed to buying them from GenreVideos at a discount. They are the reason why I didn't ask for a refund when I was accidentally double charged on a video purchase. They are the reason why I’ve spent a countless number of hours over the past three months sifting through internet refuse on Bluestone’s behalf which has produced reports on over four hundred unique links to pirated Bluestone material (which has now been deleted - FF Admin). They are the reason why I had been planning to keep pace and continue this time consuming effort into 2018 with a realistic goal of finding fifteen hundred discrete links over the course of the year. They are the reason why I’m willing to donate hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars to fund the purchase of those specific boots for a studio that would use them. They are the reason why I abandoned Punished Heroines, currently known as TheRyeFilms, after that studio moved away from them. They are the reason why I’m currently questioning my continued support of Bluestone Productions for the same reason.

I’m not looking for gratitude or additional consideration. I’m merely trying to quantify the value I place on those boots as I don't think saying "I like those boots" would have been adequate.
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The Honey Badger wrote:
Director B wrote:...So you'll only buy from now on if the costume and the boots are to your taste have I got that right? I understand your passion, let's see what we can do about this problem, it's best to talk to us or me cos I can make things happen, the costume change is not a big problem, but you do realize that if we do this you'll be doing exactly what you've been accusing others of doing, which is influencing the outcome of our productions. We have no problem with this because after all, we make these videos to please you guys, but it's so hard to please everyone.
I have no problem with people adding their input to influence the outcome on matters they’re interested in, but I think some restraint should be shown as to the amount of items one attempts to influence. Of the incredibly limited amount of times I’ve ever chosen to voice my displeasure on production-related elements, boots have been my only focus. Any other concerns that I’ve had about elements have been forgivable up until this point. I don’t even want to discuss them since there are others who seem to find enjoyment in the small things I take issue with, but those Wonder-130 boots are the single most important element to me in a superheroine death-fantasy video and have an inexplicably strong influence on my support of a studio. This fixation has existed well before my arrival to the Femme Fatalities community and will continue to exist should I chose to leave. All of this information was outlined in my application to this message board alongside my offer of material support. Since it appears as though Blue doesn’t mind if privately discussed matters are disclosed for public record, perhaps some of the following information may put the value I place in those boots into perspective. They are the reason why I took an interest in Bluestone Productions back when he released his first Wondra video. They are one of the key reasons as to why I care about the survival of the studio. They are the reason why I find myself buying videos I have little interest in. They are the reason why I've chosen to buy both versions of a video on a monthly basis. They are the reason why I buy both versions of a videos from the Silk 'N' Blood store as opposed to buying them from GenreVideos at a discount. They are the reason why I didn't ask for a refund when I was accidentally double charged on a video purchase. They are the reason why I’ve spent a countless number of hours over the past three months sifting through internet refuse on Bluestone’s behalf which has produced reports on over four hundred unique links to pirated Bluestone material (which has now been deleted - FF Admin). They are the reason why I had been planning to keep pace and continue this time consuming effort into 2018 with a realistic goal of finding fifteen hundred discrete links over the course of the year. They are the reason why I’m willing to donate hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars to fund the purchase of those specific boots for a studio that would use them. They are the reason why I abandoned Punished Heroines, currently known as TheRyeFilms, after that studio moved away from them. They are the reason why I’m currently questioning my continued support of Bluestone Productions for the same reason.

I’m not looking for gratitude or additional consideration. I’m merely trying to quantify the value I place on those boots as I don't think saying "I like those boots" would have been adequate.
Badger, if you buy the boots you want us to use (in all sizes) then we'll use them in our productions, there is no problem here. Buy them and send them to Blue. What's hard to find is the yellow boots for Darkwing, I forget Yvonna's size, this is the reason we didn't have Darkwing in her yellow boots in the last video, her old boots were falling apart and we couldn't find them on the internet in the UK. You buy them and we guarantee we'll use them. Your call.
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Re: Idea for a new 'Supervillainess'

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Fair enough but don't abandon the red otk boots totally, Mr B.
As you know I prefer them to the ones that Mr Badger is talking about. I don't know why you can't have one type with one character and another type with another character, it would certainly help distinguish them as the Amazonian types all look very similar anyway.
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xj900uk wrote:Fair enough but don't abandon the red otk boots totally, Mr B.
As you know I prefer them to the ones that Mr Badger is talking about. I don't know why you can't have one type with one character and another type with another character, it would certainly help distinguish them as the Amazonian types all look very similar anyway.
We have to be fair, we used the OTK boots in the last 3 videos, it's only fair that we use the boots that Badger is suggesting in the next 3. Then again Blue has the last say on this matter.
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Director B wrote:Badger, if you buy the boots you want us to use (in all sizes) then we'll use them in our productions, there is no problem here. Buy them and send them to Blue. What's hard to find is the yellow boots for Darkwing, I forget Yvonna's size, this is the reason we didn't have Darkwing in her yellow boots in the last video, her old boots were falling apart and we couldn't find them on the internet in the UK. You buy them and we guarantee we'll use them. Your call.
Whilst I appreciate the thought Director B, this is Bluestone’s call to make as it’s his studio. Not mine. Not yours. My offer to replace the Wonder-130 boots of his current heroines will remain valid regardless of what he decides to do, but my full support of Bluestone Productions hinges on which of his superheroines will be wearing the Wonder-130 boots moving forward. I’m not looking to shake things up with extreme changes. I’m more interested in returning things back to the way they were whilst also making some concessions along the way.

This is not the way I imagined Blue and my conversation would resume after we agreed to table our discussion over the holiday season.

xj900uk wrote:Fair enough but don't abandon the red otk boots totally, Mr B.
As you know I prefer them to the ones that Mr Badger is talking about. I don't know why you can't have one type with one character and another type with another character, it would certainly help distinguish them as the Amazonian types all look very similar anyway.
I'm not looking for all of his heroines to revert back to the Wonder-130s. In an ideal setting, it would be nice to see Supernova, Ultrawoman, and Wonderkick wearing them in future films.
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Director B wrote:
xj900uk wrote:Fair enough but don't abandon the red otk boots totally, Mr B.
As you know I prefer them to the ones that Mr Badger is talking about. I don't know why you can't have one type with one character and another type with another character, it would certainly help distinguish them as the Amazonian types all look very similar anyway.
We have to be fair, we used the OTK boots in the last 3 videos, it's only fair that we use the boots that Badger is suggesting in the next 3. Then again Blue has the last say on this matter.
Valid point, Director B. Although I prefer the otk ones, yes we should mix and match.
How about the idea that (say) one of the Amazonian types (don't mind which, but let's just take Dark Wondra as an example, or may be Wonderkick) permanently incorporates them into her wardrobe?
Then (say) Wondra and Ultra have the 130 boots that Mr Badger prefers on a regular basis. That way not all the Amazonian warrioress types would look identical, and it would also satisfy the fans out there.

I am not sure exactly what the split is on fandom, I am wondering if it is about 50/50.
Perhaps we should start another thread to find out which boots fans prefer? Either way it would be best if we keep on using both types, although if you want to stick some heroines with one particular type then fair enough.

BTW I prefer Darkwing in the black boots she wore in 'Mind Control', they look far better and sexier than her old yellow ones. But that's just me...
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The Honey Badger wrote:
Director B wrote:Badger, if you buy the boots you want us to use (in all sizes) then we'll use them in our productions, there is no problem here. Buy them and send them to Blue. What's hard to find is the yellow boots for Darkwing, I forget Yvonna's size, this is the reason we didn't have Darkwing in her yellow boots in the last video, her old boots were falling apart and we couldn't find them on the internet in the UK. You buy them and we guarantee we'll use them. Your call.
Whilst I appreciate the thought Director B, this is Bluestone’s call to make as it’s his studio. Not mine. Not yours. My offer to replace the Wonder-130 boots of his current heroines will remain valid regardless of what he decides to do, but my full support of Bluestone Productions hinges on which of his superheroines will be wearing the Wonder-130 boots moving forward. I’m not looking to shake things up with extreme changes. I’m more interested in returning things back to the way they were whilst also making some concessions along the way.

This is not the way I imagined Blue and my conversation would resume after we agreed to table our discussion over the holiday season.

xj900uk wrote:Fair enough but don't abandon the red otk boots totally, Mr B.
As you know I prefer them to the ones that Mr Badger is talking about. I don't know why you can't have one type with one character and another type with another character, it would certainly help distinguish them as the Amazonian types all look very similar anyway.
I'm not looking for all of his heroines to revert back to the Wonder-130s. In an ideal setting, it would be nice to see Supernova, Ultrawoman, and Wonderkick wearing them in future films.
You're quite right Badger it is Blue's call, let's see what he says. No one can say we don't try to please everyone. :-)
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destiny in a catsuit would be perfect ;)
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Well, my holidays are not over yet. I'm visiting with my kids this week. When I get back Sunday night, I can resume my tabled conversation with Badger. We'll be getting actress sizes to him, and 'yes' we will be using the Pleaser Wonder boots again for some of our most iconic heroines.

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My response to this idea is two fold. First I think the idea would be very exciting from a fetish perspective. It is a video I probably would buy from the studio. However, I think it would be better if it wasn't something the studio got involved in. The problem is that the elements contained in such a production following this idea are already in a lot of other productions out there. Why buy the assassin flick from blue when another is available. I may personally choose blue, I can't say that for others. I'm thinking from the prospective of a studio only having limited time and resources, and personally I'd rather they be spent on the series they already do, and do well. It's something unique that really isn't anywhere else. With that in mind I guess I would count myself in the opposition at the present.
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I have a better question,element poster and release date for the latest Melody video?? :)
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mobious1091 wrote:My response to this idea is two fold. First I think the idea would be very exciting from a fetish perspective. It is a video I probably would buy from the studio. However, I think it would be better if it wasn't something the studio got involved in. The problem is that the elements contained in such a production following this idea are already in a lot of other productions out there. Why buy the assassin flick from blue when another is available. I may personally choose blue, I can't say that for others. I'm thinking from the prospective of a studio only having limited time and resources, and personally I'd rather they be spent on the series they already do, and do well. It's something unique that really isn't anywhere else. With that in mind I guess I would count myself in the opposition at the present.
Valid points, mobious, and thank you for making them.
Perhaps the market at the moment just isn't ready for a new Supervillainess with her own movie series, I honestly don't know. However, perhaps we could introduce one to fight an established heroine, by way of recompense, as we haven't had many good F/F fights for some time now (I know that Blue actually has one planned to film this quarter, but that's something of a rareity especially since Blue & Mr B have had to scale back their budgets).
Perhaps we should be more focused on finding and eliminating the pirates and illegal copywriters, just so that there is more money to play about with in the Bluestone Production company? More money = more chance of our requests or personal likes appearing.
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