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[kevin67]

Hi,

Hold it , Hold it. It seems like we are starting to not only get off topic, but we are starting to snipe at each other. Everyone take cover.

I think we should start looking at the issues again and not the personalities. At first, I would like to say that I do not hate DS, it's a site not a human being. Secondly, and to noone's surprise, I do lurk on DS for reasons too long to enumerate here. What a revelation.

Now let's get down to the issues as I see them.

Issue one- Does the site manager of a site have the right to determine the content that is shown to the public. You must realize that all the necro site producers do draw a line that they will not cross, thus giving each of them a certain flavor or feeling to their videos. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending upon how you look at it, money has to be made to continue the making of these videos, and is definitely a factor.The questrion is -are we willing to accept the pussy shooting video, made by Blue and starring Suzi, and give it a public release?

Issue two- Does an actor or actress have the right to refuse to do something which they feel is not proper? Geno- I have always been confused as to why you chose Suzi ,when you already got Milena,s pussy shot. If you don't like her acting, then why even bother to ask for her in a pussy shooting video? I am certain you knew that she and Blue were good friends, he has mentioned it several times on this site. You took exception to having Kelli even come over to FF, and nothing even happened to her. She apparently decided that she was not going to review videos here. That is fine, she made her choice and it is respected. I am certainly not going to go over and join your board -then try to convince her your the devil. On this issue you lose on points.

Here is my suggestion, for what it's worth, so we don't spend a lot of time screaming at each other. Why not create another poll which deals entirely with this one video to help Blue determine the fate of this video. Let the voice of the members be heard . It should be simple and easy to vote. Once the members have read all the arguments, pro and con, they vote.

1) Forget the pussy shooting video.
2) I want to see the pussy shooting video.

For those who lurk or are afraid of commenting , they can meerly vote. The ultimate decision, of couse lies with Blue. Any additions,comments or suggestions are encouraged.

[Bluestone]

Kevin,

Thanks for your intercession. You are the moderator of this thread, so I am only answering in my capacity as producer member. We already have a poll which at the time of this posting has Petra's video and Suzi's pussy shooting video neck and neck. I'd like to continue this poll, since it compares pussy-shootings with other sub-fetishes such as other shootings and stabbings. I don't really want to put a whole sub-fetish such as pussy shooting on trial with a yes/no poll.

There are many interesting sub-topics arising here, and I'd like to address a few:

1. I do not think I should be withholding behind-the-scenes information from customers. My experience is that customers (and I was one for many years before becoming a producer) crave such information from producers. Since Suzi and I are friends, I let her decide about "Widowmaker", and she decided to do it, knowing it would probably appear some day on my site. So, no one has to feel guilty about seeing "Widowmaker". As with all of my videos, the lovely victim is not portrayed in a disgusting or gory fashion. Suzi remains beautiful even in death. By the way, she is dressed in mini-dress and not evening gown;

2. I agree with Paul that it is very hard to get actresses in the door, once they know that you want to film 3-4 videos of them being shot, stabbed, strangled and shot again. Once they meet me, they become much more comfortable. They usually comment later on my professionalism, which no doubt means that I don't try to steal an unwanted feel. Petra said not only was I professional but that I was the most patient person that she's ever worked with. I dare say that Geno has no conception of the relationship that a good producer or director has to develop with his/her cast. Yes, and actresses DO have the RIGHT to choose whether they want to take a role or not. Suzi is on an exclusive contract with Bluestone Video Productions for necro videos, but even she has the right to say NO, and, in my book, 'No' is 'No'. I don't think I should, after being told 'No', try to convince an actress to reconsider, unless she leaves the door open to this, as Suzi did in the case of the "Widowmaker" after declining a similar impact in "Ride to Hell" a few months previously;

3. I.M.H.O., name-calling is not a legitimate ingredient of an adult debate;

4. There appears to be some interest in "Widowmaker" as is obvious from the above poll results. Does anyone other than Geno wish to speak in favour of pussy shootings? Please feel free. We will hear you out;

5. Obviously, I have accepted doing two pussy shootings as a challenge to see if they can be done with class and eroticism. I don't plan to turn Silk Videos into a pussy-shooting specialty producer, but I'm wondering if that would be a good inroad for a new producer. Geno seems convinced that this is a gold mine and there are many people at DS ready to form a pussy-shooting society. Watch out for the S.P.C.A., Geno Shooting Mad, maybe you could become such a producer. Does anyone think there is a sufficient market to support such a producer?

Blue

[Geno]

______ Please Don't Start Talking That Legal Garbage Again KHP______
(Bluestone is not Dominated by those fears like you Are Paul.)

KHP---That is what got your in trouble in the first place. Members other than Geno, asked you to do simular remake of some to the most sexiest death scene we know like "Farewell My Lovely" , "Bonnie and Clyde", or "The Silencers". Not an exact remake, but something close to it. It would have been perfectly legal and no one can put a copyright on an idea, or a method of kill, but you had that same rotten yellow streak on your back a mile wide KHP. You gave the DS every illegitimate excuse the book, for not doing one of those scene. People fought and died for you right as American to express free speech and your ran away from those suggestion, like you are doing with these pussy shootings. Fine if you do what to take a chance KHP, don't do it.

Beside Bluestone did one KHP. Where as you were too chicken to take a chance, like you are with pussy shots, and he did sort of remake of the silencers. A woman did get shot in her back while be held romatically in a man's arms. Bluestone's strongest points is that he knows how to dress women up and is not afraid to exercise his rights. When it comes to the incredible erotism of a pussy shot done correctly, and getting good reactions, but I am willing to overlook less than perfect acting.

Kevin67--- Polls don't exactly work that way. They are not surveys. People do not have the option of voting 5 stars for "breast shots" and 4 stars for "pussy shootings." and ranking their taste down the line. Nor should anyone make the mistake thinking that just because one video did not get a vote, that people don't still put it in a close second place in their hearts. You only get one chance to vote. If pussy shots looses by a couple of votes Bluestone is not going throw the idea under the trash. The polls, and the convincing arguments we are putting up here both shall, and should, weigh in on his decision to try to do a few pussy shooting videos. I would not be interested in voting on any project, using an electionic poll where, if my vote lost by just a couple of points, the whole project is dropped.


Mr. Max --- So, you have express your hatred of pussy shooting. Now you are going to see if you can stop us pussy-shooting-lovers from getting the product. Instead of just staying out of the way. Still planning on getting in the way Max? Well it's going to be a pleasure to bowl you over. Poor , poor, Max.

There does seem to be an interest in "pussy shooting" based on the poll, but no one want to get rat-packed for voicing their supportive opinion, by Max and company..... So it very quiet right now.


Geno

[Max5s]

Mr. Max --- So, you have express your hatred of pussy shooting. Now you are going to see if you can stop us pussy-shooting-lovers from getting the product. Instead of just staying out of the way. Still planning on getting in the way Max? Well it's going to be a pleasure to bowl you over. Poor , poor, Max.
Geno

You are right. I do not like them. The decision; however, is Blue's. Not yours. Not mine. And you are not going to bowl anyone over. Blue has already articulated his position with respect to Suzi, and from what I can see, he is trying to get a feeling about how other people feel about it. He already knows our respective positions on the subject, so why don't you and I shut the f*ck up so that others can be heard. You do know how to shut the f*ck up don't you?

(Edited for offensive language -- The Administration)

[Geno]

Getting discourteous now, Mr. Max?

You are begining to crack at the seams? Uncivilty begining to take over your persona? I gave you fair warning boy. I told you it's enough you may like all those dismembering gore gut and tit chopping fantasies, but that does not mean you should try and block pussy shooting fantasies that don't turn you on. Even as the big boss of DeadSkirts I never try to block anyone from getting the fantasy on video Mr. Max. You ought to know that Mr. Max. We have producers on Deadskirts thast can give you all the gore and guts, and tit chopping action you like, and I don't try to block the release of there videos, or the promotions they make on DeadSkirts. What you are doing is foolish and impossible, Max5s.

Max I have the best interest of this community at heart and big board to back me up, and even though you don't have those same super-resources I have, you have the impudence to try and shoot down and stop legitimate fantasy video production of rare and exotic fantasy. If you try to stop it, you'll just be be sitting a sitting duck, Mr. Max.

Geno

[Bluestone]

Geno,

Back off! Max simply said that it's my decision, not that he was trying to block anything, and he's right! He also suggested that you and he give someone else a chance to express their opinions. Right again! Way I see it, Max is batting 1,000 here

So, any other opinions out there on this slightly controversial subject. All opinions are welcomed and tolerated by the administration of this board.

Blue

[Geno]

Unfortunately it's not entirely up the admistration alone whether anyone voices a pro-pussy shooting opinon. They need clearance from Max5s and company also. When they see the admistration supporting the barbaric behavior of Max and his F'-words by giving him a 1,000 points, do you really think my supporters are going to come foward?

If Mr. Max5s is batting a 1000, I must be batting a million Bluestone. He's mad at the whole world over this pussy shooting subject. I told him in so many words also to back off also, but he keeps comming back for more. Let us watch and see. I have said my piece.

Geno

[Bluestone]

Geno,

You're the one that keeps coming back for more. We've heard your opinion, and if your supporters do not care enough about pussy shootings to express an opinion on a free speech board like this, then they can't be very supportive of your opinions after all. Doesn't look like you're batting a million. It looks like you're about to strike out! "Widowmaker" has slipped in the poll since you started your pro-pussy-shoot tirade. Perhaps, you should take Max5s' advice

Blue

[kevin67]

Hi,

I agree with Max and Blue, let us all calm down and allow the members we have not heard from either post a comment or at least vote in the poll.

[Nightposter]

Sorry guys, I can't let this go:

Geno wrote somewhere above: ( and the spellings are all his)
“Your reaching back over to the DeadSkirts site for my owner identification card and bringing it up here. You are the one who are doing that Nightposter. “
In the topic:
Bluestone Videos slammed on DeadSkirts!!!!
You, Geno, make mention of the fact that you run Deadskirts, several times
in the run of the postings. At every opportunity you still shove that fact in front of us here. ( as noted below ):

"I never said I was a moderator or a owner of this site. I post as a regular member who just happens to be the big boss somewhere else."

If, You are posting as a “regular” member, you seem to forgotten the fact that you are a “regular” member, and continue your postings here, as you think you are still preaching to the masses at DS.

"Now to straighten you out Nighposter on a 2nd issue. I , Geno, do have the right as a paying customer demand a quality product from producers and demand that they put more or what I, and my members want to see in production. They don't have to give in to those demands, but I do have a right to request anything I want to from a producer. Whether they give it or not, is up to them. "

Now, to straighten YOU out, go back are re read my postings – slowly- and carefully. Here, I'll help you by re posting that part below:

“Geno is entitled to his fantasies, ( yes even Geno )I've stumbled upon some groups into Vore, and Gore and groups that get off watching people shredded to bits....they are all entitled to their fantasies. ( heck even that guy at DS who wanted to see belly dancers get it in their belly is entitled -but -) It is how they want to go about satisfying their fantasies we seem to have problems with.

Geno, or anyone else does not have the right to demand that a producer attempt to get any model to do any scene he or she is uncomfortable with.
Last time I checked, the USA had freed the slaves, and they are just as entitled to deny a request to do a scene, as Geno is entitled to ask for one.”

You can ask, mr. customer but you can not demand that someone force a model do do what she does not want to do.

"I like pussying shooting fantasies, so does, Sandi, China Doll, Sarah and a half dozen more women. You just said you don't care about their fantasies. So I want to know Mr. Nightposter, what are you going to about it? Are you going to stand guard on the entrance to FemmeFalities and make sure no expressions of love for pussy-shooting fantasies gets by you. "

No, I have stated that “I” do not care for that fantasy and I also stated in that posting that you should really re read – slowly:

“As I said, Geno is entitled to his fantasies, I am just as entitled to not agree with him, and not care for his fantasies. “

"With the exception Geno, Mr. Nightposter, you already have a climate of fear here, that will prevent women like that from expressing love for their pussy shooting fantasies on this board. Nightposter don't you realize you it's is OK for you to hate pussy shooting fantasies, but you should not be intimidating others on the board, into not sharing them."

And you, Mr Geno- “I never said I was a moderator or a owner of this site. I post as a regular member who just happens to be the big boss somewhere else.” Should not be intimidating anyone here about anything, but almost every time you post, YOU DO!


“You don't have that friendy enviorment here Nightposter.”

Yes we do it show in every topic and discussion you do not post in.

“They way it is now on this board, for the moment except for Gene, is that the only people you have here on this thread so far, are those expressing disgust for pussy shooting fantasies.”

Maybe it is because only those of us who do not care for this direction, are the only ones who do post.
Now that you have shown up taking everybody who has posted here to task, maybe those who would post further will not – so they can be spared the “wrath of Geno”.
If the majority of members here had approached Blue wanting any fantasy
the original thread would not have been needed, and my response wouldn't be either.

One final thing, Mr I'm just a regular poster here.....
take a few minutes to actually read some of the other postings on this board. No where on this board is there a negative attitude between members in any subject – except the ones you choose to post to.
No one calls names, no one has threatened action against a member, the moderators and owners have not threatened (or even suggested) action against any member – except in threads where YOU have posted.


(Gee, poor Geno, coming here and causing trouble? Who would have thought that)
Be an adult, (you are one?) you are capable of good postings ( at least you used to) and quit the “shotgun” approach to posting.
Again sorry

[EvilBilly]

I don't mean to be a rabble-rouser (or barn-burner, for that matter), but I definitely get the impression that Geno is the kid who always hit the hornet's nest with the stick.

[CapgunChuck]

Just want to get my 2 cents in, hoping not to interrupt ongoing debate in this thread. Pussy shooting is very much "in demand" for this old customer, lol. I purchased "Final Contract" and always purchase every video I can find which includes below-the-navel shootings or stabbings. (Final Contract is a superb, well-acted and near perfect movie, well worth the price of admission, though not quite what I had hoped to see….but few movies are…lol) My personal fantasy involves well-acted scenarios utilizing good cinematic technique containing repeated silenced gunshots below the navel and lower, or repeated knife thrusts to same areas, without excessive gore and tastefully depicted. I find gunshots to the area of the collarbone area insulting--which I've seen too many of lately; something farther down would be like "a breath of fresh air." What I mean by "good cinematic technique" is the timing of the editing of camera angle changes to form a smooth rhythmic flow of cut-ins and cut-outs, takeaways, etc.; for example, a quick close-up of the silencer barrel, followed by a close-up of the actress's face when she looks at the gun, followed by a close-up of the flash from the gun, followed by a pan down her body as her long hair falls over her face as she looks to see where the first bullet went in, followed a medium shot of both characters, followed by close-up of the actress's facial and vocal reactions, followed by a pan up of the handgun as it is raised to fire again, etc. Most of the Bluestone videos I've seen over the years contain better cinematic technique than most of the productions I've seen in this genre--or at least try hard enough to utilize good cinematic technique that I'm usually happy with Bluestone technique. And I'm always extremely happy with the Blue's beautiful, attractive actresses and their sexy attire… Oops--looks like I may be getting off topic….trying to include too much in one post, being out of practice from not having posted anywhere in quite a few years…

chuck

[Bluestone]

You're entirely on topic, Chuck. Thanks for your contribution to this thread. I'll take note of your comments for future productions as I'm always trying to improve my craft with better cinematic techniques.

Hopefully, others will also contribute to this and other threads. It's always nice to get fresh points of view

Blue

[Tkiller]

Let's just vote and stop all the bickering. Just my two cents worth on this subject.. I am stuck in a rut. I don't necessarily like seeing women killed in general. My only interest is in breast shots, so I can't really comment on any other form of shooting, stabbing, etc. I'm voting for the Petra video for that reason.

[Bluestone]

Hey Everyone!

Looks like "Russian Roulette" followed by "Widowmaker" will be added to the blood scenes to be posted after those already scheduled. Thanks for all of the great feedback!

Blue