Bagging (an erotic thread war)

[Pennpaul]

Bagging has garnered more negatives than positives. Yet, very little has been offered to producers regarding constructive criticisms. At HVT, we have tried to do convincing baggings in several ways. Sadly there has been no feedback

Methods HVT has used
1. Succesion of failed attempts (victim tears the bag) followed by KO and wrist tie to hamper defensive moves
2. Arms pinned behind their back. This has been done when the bag can be handle by one hand.
3. Bound and gagged. A very passive approach that lacks dynamic interaction
4. Spread-eagle tied to bed

As stated, sadly the videos have not sold. I can only wonder that there is something else to do.

Have at it

4P

[Nyghtfall]

A lot of times, when someone is trying to do everything themselves - writing, producing, directing, acting - because they're spread so thin, what starts out as a great idea gets lost in the process. You do come up with a lot of interesting ideas, but perhaps it would be better if you stayed behind the camera and hired others to play the killers so you can focus more on your strengths.

[Pennpaul]

Very good suggestion, Nyghtfall. Perps are not that easy to find because they expect to be paid like the ladies. When available, I do use others. Problem is that so many ladies travel alone.

Some notable others
Bob Bullitt
Ted Alderman
Luc Bernier
Kurt Greene
Phlipp Morris

Cutting expenses is an issue to be handled.

Thx for the comments

4P

[Bluestone]

4P,

I agree with Nyghtfall that it's hard to be a one man show... believe me, I know, but that doesn't explain why bagging videos don't sell for you. I've had good success with the few bagging videos that I've done. What do the bagging fans want to see? Best to just ask them.

Let us know, guys and gals, what you want to see in a bagging video, so that we can do them for you!

Blue

[Arthur]

Bagging doesn't really interest me because I don't get to see the
changes in the facial expressions of the victim as she struggles
and then surrenders into death. The reaction of the victim is an
important part of the fantasy scene. Strangulation done using the
hands or a garrotte is more interesting to me.

[Pennpaul]

This is a "Thread War", Bluestone. I am expecting fans to chirp in like Nyghtfall and Arthur.

To Arthur. I guess that you haven't seen Debbie D, Wenona nor Dixie in the bag. A good clear plastic bags doesn't hide facials. Some distortion, and a lot of expressions.

4p

[smudger]

I can tell you that bagging does absolutely nothing for me, 4P, and that is why I never buy them.

However, on the plus side, I have added another response for the Thread War.

[Pennpaul]

Yeah verily, Smudger, even a non-sequiter contributes to a thread war.
Still looking for comments from interested fans.

I will say that the soft plastic bags are dangerous. We tried one with Debbie D and it instantly collapsed around her face. After the panic attack, we substituted a sturdy bag that held its shape.

Trial and error,

4p

[KinkyWithPlastic]

I like watching women being bagged while they are bound and gagged,but sometimes it better without the gag because it makes it more intense seeing the bag being sucked in her mouth as she gasps for air

[KinkyWithPlastic]

This is a good example of what I like

[Grace X]

I am actually totally into erotic fantasies of bagging...it is one of my personal favorites among the many options a girl has for being sensually murdered, lol. I had no idea that they didn't sell well...but when I see a hot bagging scenario it sends me right over the moon, and I buy them with great enthusiasm.

My favorite scenarios are those in which a bad girl/spy/assassin is surprised from behind by an assailant with a bag, and I love the sexy distortion of her features while being thus murdered...her open mouth with the film of plastic from the bag slightly concave within the circle of her lips being wildly erotic to me (a clear bag is definitely a must).

Please don't give up on bagging scenarios, dear producers! I know you have to produce what sells, but here is one girl who can't get enough of that sexy plastic.

XOX G

[DaleCar]

No interest in baggings. For some of the same reasons listed above. Also dramaticly it seems like a rather clumsy way to kill. If the victims hands arent bound. Just poke a hole in the damn bag (particularly with the nails some gals sport). If the victim hands are bound. Theres so many more interesting ways to do the job.

[xj900uk]

I have this fantasy scenario which is a bagging-drowning where the heroine is tied up in a chair (hands behind back) a water proof bag is put over her head and secured firmly around her neck to make it nice and watertight but not too tight. Then through a hole in the top of the bag a hose goes in and fills up the bag with water, drowning her in the chair.
IMO a great demise you should try that!

[Egeek]

I know that feeling. when you are a writer you are the one man band. the director and character creator and scene builder for that matter. story writing is different from filming of course. But you are torn on where you want to focus your strengths the most. there is times where I would just write a character bio and count that as a short story and be done with it. but for watching clips I dont want to see all the bells and whistles anymore. just something simple to view my tastebuds in. so if it looks like a clip idea is stretched thin I dont mind. sometimes less is more. Focus on certain things is a tricky one. as a director or as a writer I guess.

[Grace X]

That's a hot bagging scenario, XJ! I never even thought about that one, but you can bet I'm going to think about it now!

EG, though I like interesting stories in videos, I also enjoy the "less is more" concept that you describe. Sometimes it is very stimulating just to focus on all the fine details of one, simple, powerful concept.